06-10-2020, 01:35 PM
(06-09-2020, 02:04 PM)Au165 Wrote: Target quality is not catchable balls. Target quality is properly placed balls not just catchable. The point being they all caught similar amounts of catchable balls but in terms of production Tate's lacked because of the quality of the ball placement to him. Target quality is absolutley tied to the ability to add RAC.
As to your "Football" analysis, none of it is actually true. What about it is "obvious on tape"? The ball on an out route shouldn't be thrown at the sideline it should be placed 1-2 outside of the stem on the outside shoulder. He shouldn't be "getting to the boundary" to make the catch at all. Now if you are talking a comeback like what AJ often ran with Dalton you'd be a little more accurate in where that ball should be placed in relation to the boundary.
This 100% causes routes to be behind and high. The reason is when you round a route off you are usually a yard or two shallow of the expected stem. The QB will start his delivery at the expected top of your stem and work laterally off that stem for the targeted location. When the targeted location is behind your path the receiver tends to find themselves further along their path because they starter working laterally at or before the start of the QB delivery. This same thing happens on slants for WR's as well, but he doesn't have the issue with slants. Bottom line, balls are wide because they are late or simply inaccurate, not because he is "slow out of his break".
Mike Williams averaged 4.4 YAC/Reception. Tate averaged 3.5 YAC/Rec, so .9 yards/reception. That's 36 more yards over the course of his 40 catches. Again, a minimal difference.
The big difference is Williams had 8 40+ yard receptions, while Tate had 0. That's at least a 320 yard difference in production. You keep comping Tate to Williams, but it's like taking a pitcher that throws an 80 mph fastball saying he doesn't need a good curveball because another pitcher with a 95 mph fastball doesn't have one.
Every NFL team comoletes out routes from the hash against the sideline, but even taking that completely out of the equation, if the WR cuts his route off short, the throw will be behind. If he carries it too far upfield, it will be wide. What generally happens is the WR runs his 7 steps, doesn't break down properly, rounds his route off and carries it too far upfield. For what you describe, he would have to break his route off a couple of steps too early and round it off. If a guy is breaking his route off early and trying to guestimate his round off to wind up in the right spot, you need to get him off the field.
As far as his breaks go, it's on his tape and it's also shown in his measurables. You're entitled to your opinion.
