Andy, Case,Jameis,Josh, Jacoby.

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(07-13-2020, 01:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Yep.

Here's a link that goes a little more in-depth for Dalton's stats - https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/andy-dalton/

Notice the Efficiency section...
True Passer Rating (removes unpressured throwaways and dropped passes) - 69.5 (34th in league)
True Completion Percentage (same things removed as above) - 65.6% (31st in league)
Play-Action Completion Percentage - 60.3% (31st in league)
Red Zone Completion percentage - 51.4% (35th in league)
Deep ball completion percentage - 34.6% (21st in league)
Pressured completion percentage - 26.2% (32nd in league)
Clean pocket completion percentage - 69.5% (29th in league)

It also didn't help that the Bengals' receivers had an average target separation of 1.46 yards beyond the LOS, which was last in the league.

For comparison sake for target separation (distance of separation from nearest defender):
John Ross - 1.77 yards (21st in league among WRs)
Tyler Boyd - 1.33 yards (81st in league among WRs)
Tyler Eifert - 1.37 yards (28th in league among TEs)
Auden Tate - 1.09 yards (102nd in league among WRs)
Alex Erickson - 1.52 yards (48th in league among WRs)

So basically, Dalton wasn't accurate enough getting his receivers the ball but most of the receivers weren't getting much separation to help Dalton out.

Thanks, Ocho....A few things jumped out at me from the link you shared:  WHile ranked #11 in attempts, Dalton was ranked #23 in deep ball attempts.  His supporting cast efficiency was #32.  His protection rating was #19.  Add all these things up and is screams:  Joe Burrow.  The protection wasn't as bad as it is made out to be.  A mobile QB with better downfield vision and accuracy could make a huge impact.  The supporting cast efficiency could be due to a lack of Green and, often, Ross, and could be improved with both as well as Tee Higgins.  Having more time to GET open and a larger field to force the defense to defend (I realize it is still the same dimensions, but defenders could sit on routes when you rarely attempt to stretch the field, and lack in deep ball accuracy.

I don't put this all on Dalton, as he didn't have the cast, protection, or scheme right until later in the year.  However, it is clear that Burrow's strengths can improve a good number of these measures and hopefully have a significant effect on the scoreboard.