07-17-2020, 07:33 PM
(07-17-2020, 06:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Show me exactly how "easy" it is to find a RB "anywhere" in the draft. Except you can't ignore all the failures when talking about the good ones.
If you look at recent years the league is scattered with guys that have produced that were taken later in the draft. Just because they're first 3 years don't exceed Mixon's doesn't make it not true. You're using a specific measurement of success, which almost immediately removes guy that didn't see bigger roles immediately. But that doesn't necessarily make them less than.
Examples:
Chris Carson - More yards, more TD's and a higher YPC than Mixon over the last two seasons. --- 7th round
Kareem Hunt - Higher Career high in yards, higher YPC, same amount of TD's despite missing an entire season's worth of games --- 3rd round
Aaron Jones - 28 TD's to Mixon's 17, higher YPC, 1,087 yards last year with 16 TD's. --- 5th round
Alvin Kamara - 27 TD's to Mixon's 17, higher YPC, more than DOUBLE the receptions and rec yards. --- 3rd round
Nick Chubb - Coming off 1,494 yard seaason, only 400 yards and 1 TD less than Mixon despite being in year 2 --- 2nd round
Dalvin Cook - 1,135 yards in only 14 games, higher YPC, more rec and rec yards. --- 2nd round
Marlon Mack - 2,100 yards over last two season, more TD's higher YPC -- 4th round
Devonta Freeman - Starting in year 2 he went on a 3 year run of over 3,000 yards with 29 TD's, both higher than Mixon. More rec and rec yards --- 4th round
Phillip Lindsay (through 2 seasons) 2,048 yards 16 TD's and 4.9 YPC. (All higher than Joe's first 2 years) - Undrafted
Lamar Miller - Didn't start until year 2. Years 2-4 mirror Mixon's years 1-3. Another good value. 4th round
Jordan Howard -First 3 years more yards, and more TD's than Mixon. Another good value. 5th round
David Johnson - 1,239 yarda and 16 TD's in year 2 to with 80 receptions and 879 receiving yards. (Injury stalled career.) - Round 3
James Connor - Didn't start until year 2. 973 yards and 12 TD's in onky 12 starts in year 2. - 3rd round
Now, in case anyone thinks I'm saying that all of these guys are better than Mixon, I'm not. That's not the point of this post. It's mainly to illustrate how certain players can be immediately removed from the conversation using Fred's critera (1st 3 years).
Every single one of these guys had less carries than Mixon over their first 3 years. Most saw limited action in year 1. Some missed significant time. Some were in backfields by committee early on before winning the job.
You can't just dismiss players of this caliber because they had less yards though their first 3 seasons. Just as you can't say they're not all perfect examples of guys found outside the 1st round. These guys are or were all studs, and are great examples of value to be had at the position. They can't be ignored when having a conversation about later round talent.
