07-26-2020, 01:00 AM
(07-25-2020, 08:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Dalton was just a second round pick, not number one overall, but he stepped into a loaded team with great coaches.Before you totally close the door on Fred Johnson, sometimes another teams trash is another teams treasure
One of the best LTs in team history (Whitworth). A solid vet RG (Bobbie Williams). RT Andre Smith had been a bust his first two season due to injury. But from '11-'13 he was a very good RT. I believe in '13 PFF rated him as the best RT in the league. Kyle Cook was also a very good OC before his injury in '12. I think he only allowed 6 sacks over his first three full seasons as a starter. Pat Kirwan at Sports Illustrated had Cook on his "Pro Bowl Snub" list in '11. And no matter how much you want to shit on Nate Livings he was not that bad. He played well enough to get a fat contract in free agency and none of the experts were screaming that Dallas overpaid. That was a very good experienced offensive line.
Joe will have better skill players, but his O-line could be a disaster. I love Jonah Williams, but at this point he has not proven he can play well in the NFL. After Price and Ogbuehi we all know that first round picks are not guranteed to even be decent starters. Sua-Filo has been a back up since getting cut by the Titans in '18. I like Jordan's potential, but he looked horrible last year. Trey Hopkins is our only "proven starter" and he is no better than a middle of the pack OC. Bobby Hart improved a lot last year, but I am not even sure he has a starting spot guaranteed. It is so bad that some fans are excited about a scrub the steelers cut last year or even our sixth round pick being able to contribute this year.
Fred Johnson played well enough in 2 games last year to warrant a serious consideration at a positon
That is in need of a upgrade
He did more than hold his own vs the Dolphins and Browns. I think the offense averaged more than 27 pts
Per game in those last 2 games. I could be wrong but you can corralate good offensive output and good
Play from your LT.
The fact he came from Pittsburgh tells me he might be a diamond in the rough..and I will add
The Steelers organization as a whole as done a much more superlative job in finding oline talent than
The Bengals front office has over the last 10 years
You call Fred Johnson a scrub based on what ?
Who is the Steelers LT?
Oh yeah he was cut by the Bengals before the Steelers signe him. He must be a scrub too.
(07-13-2020, 07:50 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: I had (and probably still have buried somewhere amidst the rubble) a VHS of that game. I kept the tape cued to the point where he took it to the house. Watching at the time I too thought it meant we were going to win, like it was some sort sort of sign, like how could they possibly lose after that, right? Thirty-one-plus years later and it's still a kick in the 'nads.
I remember they also had some sort of 3D halftime show and you had to get special glasses at 7-Eleven or some damn thing. Think the glasses are still with the tape.
