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(10-21-2015, 12:13 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Actually, they do.  Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees... they have all had multiple years that they are well over 100 rating.  I am not detracting from what Dalton has done this year, I have readily said he is playing great.  Just saying that six games does not put him into the top tier of quarterbacks.

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Let's take a look at the guys you mentioned their 1st 4 years starting in the NFL 

Brady did not start year 1 so I will compare years 2 through 5
#1 - 86.5
#2 - 85.7
#3 - 85.9
#4 - 92.6
Average is 87.67 and had one year on bench to prepare

Brees - Did not start year one so again years 2 through5
#1 - 76.9
#2 - 67.5
# 3 - 104.8
#4 - 89.2
Average is 84.60 and had one year on the bench to prepare

Peyton Manning - started immediately
#1- 71.2
#2 - 90.7
#3 - 94.7
#4 - 84.1
Average is 85.17 over 1st 4 years and then had 2 more years under 100 QBR

Rodgers - sat 1st 3 years (played sparingly and had QBR of 62, but very little playing time)
Year #1 (first year starting year #4) - 106
#2 - 93.8
#3 - 103.2
#4 - 101.2
Average of 101.05
Rodgers was obviously groomed and ready after getting 3 years under Favre to be ready and without a doubt on everyone's discussion for the HOF already

Dalton - started immediately
#1 - 80.4
#2 - 87.4
#3 - 88.8
#4 - 83.5
Overall AD is 85.02 first 4 years


These are the facts and yes all kinds of debate as some on this list started careers in less friendly rules for QB's and receivers
But of the guys you mentioned only Manning and Dalton started year #1 and the rest had time to hone their skills and learn on the bench for at least one year.
We can argue to talent and many other factors that surround(ed) them, but that is very subjective and a lot of research needed to gather accurate facts like we already know about our Bengals (injuries in 2014 to WR and TE position) so to me it may all be a wash if trying to figure out if AD had advantage over any of them.

I am not saying AD is elite or even in that discussion (career) right now, but looking back at these great QB's, he could be someday if he continues to progress.

I also noticed only Brady and Rodgers were consistent while the rest did not have a steady progression in years 1 to 4.