Who would you rather have for all 16 games?

[*SHRacerX*]

(08-21-2020, 01:37 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I'm going to try to make this a simple statement.  I believe SHXRacer tends to have more confidence in the front office and coaching staff than a lot of others here.  He definitely has shown more than me.

Knowing or believing this to be true, I have one simple question:

Do you think if the coaching staff or front office, who work with both of these guys every single day, believed John Ross could match or exceed AJ Green's production that they would have tagged him at 17.5 mil?

Why would the Bengals pay AJ so much if, even when fully healthy, John Ross is a comparable or better talent moving forward?

Why would they not only tag AJ at obscene amount, this after paying Boyd a bundle last year, and draft Tee Higgins, if they believed Ross could establish himself as legitimate top tier receiver?

It makes no sense.  They clearly don't have the biggest of faith in John Ross.  And why would they?  The numbers and results are plain as day.  

If we can get production out of him then that's great.  And of course I do think he has potential.  But you really can't take him over anyone at this point.

Ironic as I think I probably second guess the coaching decisions as much if not more than anyone...especially Marv, but I am giving ZT a chance with this year's roster.  

Every single point you make above is valid.  Extremely valid.  And also completely irrelevant to the point I was trying to make with this thread.  I think everyone remembers what AJ has done, but he is 32 years old and has had a decline in productivity....and not just due to injuries.  Now, saying that, I still believe AJ is more Tim Brown than (insert name of WR that fell off a cliff in productivity at age 32...I am sure there are tons) but it is still a crapshoot.  Contrast that to everyone that expects so little and seems to have so much disdain for Ross.  A guy that has barely flashed, but hasn't had near the opportunities yet, either.  

I thought it would be an interesting (and spirited) discussion (assbags notwithstanding) about who would actually produce more this year if both played all 16 games.  I tried to show trends and discuss how AJ has began to have a significant number of snaps out of the slot, as they are trying to make it easier for him to get open, but everyone seems to have a very high opinion of AJ and a very low opinion of Ross.  And that is fine!  It doesn't hurt my feelings if people don't agree with me.  I was merely trying to show why I think Ross could end up being a more important part of the offense and how his outside presence will be a key factor.  

It wasn't insulting to AJ Green to ask it.  It wasn't an insult to anyone's intelligence here to discuss it.  It was a discussion that proved what I already believed and that is that people think too highly of Green and not highly enough of Ross, IMHO.  Not a problem.