All Icing No Cake

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(09-08-2020, 08:52 PM)Bmore Birds Wrote: I'm not a true stat geek because context means a lot too. But in you want to see some numbers...

John Verros, the injury coordinator at Sports Info Solutions, looked at the injury rate on four types of plays from the last three seasons (2017-2019):

Knockdowns: 1 injury every 57.1 plays (90 total injuries on 5,135 plays for a 1.8% injury rate)
Sacks: 1 injury every 75.1 plays (52 total injuries on 3,903 for a 1.3% injury rate)
Scrambles: 1 injury every 106.7 plays (23 total injuries on 2,455 plays for a 0.9% injury rate)
Designed runs: 1 injury for every 174.2 plays (11 total injuries on 1,916 plays for an 0.6% injury rate)

Anyway, I really respect and appreciate the discussion. It's a blessing and objective fans are hard to find. Thankful for you guys

(09-08-2020, 09:44 PM)Bmore Birds Wrote: I automatically try to poke holes in studies because some of them are skewed to prove a narrative. (Like asking 1000 teachers if schools need more money or 1000 coaches if sports are important for child development, like duuuh).

But it kind of makes sense because you can't see all pocket pressure and can get rolled up on. Then I did the Lamar video to see all his runs at once and I was convinced, but still like to hear others' opinions.

I think RGIII himself ruined a lot of people's viewpoint because he had no vision or common sense running. Think of Cunningham, Young, McNabb, even Vick, Wilson, Cam lasted for a good bit. LJ will get hurt and banged up because he plays football. Yes he will slow down. But I think he's actually safest on runs designed to the outside.

I don't necessarily disagree with these posts because you make logical sense. But I do think that designed run stats might be safe in the context that typically you have them be a smaller percentage of runs in a game (I could be wrong about this), whereas, the Ravens rely on Lamar's designed runs to a much greater degree, that defenses might actually be less surprised and therefore more likely to actually hurt Lamar with a solid tackle. The great thing about Lamar's slight frame is the eel like slippery quality he has that he is hard to catch and even harder to hit cleanly. But the disadvantage of that wiry frame is that it really only takes one solid hit.

It could be my orange tinted glasses as a Bengals fan speaking, but I don't see his passing IQ or skill having progressed to the level of a great pocket QB. IMO, the threat of his running opens up a lot of easy passes even downfield, that simply wouldn't be available to most other QBs. If a defense figures out how to take his running lanes away, then he might become exposed for the average passer he is. But that's so far shown to be a huge IF. And, as I said, I might be seeing what I want to see, rather than what is.