All Icing No Cake

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(09-12-2020, 05:14 PM)Bmore Birds Wrote: Not sure if you saw my videos. I posted them here before but they're spread out. The counter I included is subjective. But this is the end of every carry the Qbs had last year. It's a good eye test exercise. I'd love for you to watch them and respond. I spent a lot of time on this to help consider Lamar's longevity just as a runner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB3R7Ae1at8 - Lamar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mckgNi17ITU&t=102s - Allen

Thanks for the videos.

I watched LJ's runs for about the first half of the video. I didn't see any runs where he made dumb decisions and took bad hits when he could have avoided them. I've seen many other qb's take such hits and I've always wondered why (are they really that confident in their invincibility or are they just that stupid). One of RG III's and Cam Newton's hits to the head where they could've avoided it by either slowing down or slipping or going out of bounds comes to mind.

Having said that, I saw enough hits that he took which would make me nervous if he played QB for my team. Granted he's very elusive and fast, and seemed to avoid the nasty hits well by getting to the sidelines, but there are still many runs where the sidelines are closed off, and I'm seeing him get hit by DEs and LBs or safeties. In fact, because I hadn't seen much of LJ's play last year except for highlights, now that I've seen this video, I'm leaning more towards the "he's really taking a risk and that one bad hit that would lead to an injury" is more likely to happen. Perhaps multiple such hits over the course of his career. Again, I could be talking out of bias, but I don't believe so.

I watched just a couple Allen runs, but suffice to say his lack of elusiveness (compared to LJ and the NFL level) and his larger size, makes me believe he is very likely to get hurt from his running.

I don't much like stating things about people and their potential for injury, since I try to avoid speaking these kind of things "into existence" if you will, but when I saw those videos, those were my thoughts from a practical point of view. Perhaps LJ will be lucky, but watching that video, to me, induces a real urgency that LJ needs to develop into a "very good" pocket passer than the "average" one that he is, and that too very soon, like this year, otherwise his career may not bode well. Again, just the opinions of a rival team's fan, so I certainly wouldn't begrudge anyone for disagreeing here. And of course, LJ might just completely prove me wrong this year, and I will either chalk it up to "I don't know jack diddly" or "he was lucky and you just wait and see".

EDIT:
I wanted to add, unlike Russell Wilson, who even in his rookie year, had great downfield vision, and was able to run just enough to create space and unload deep passes, I'm not sure LJ does that anywhere near as well. But honestly, I simply may not have seen enough of him to know this. The designed runs where he has two people (linemen, or linebackers) hit him are more worrisome because his frame is really very small for an NFL qb. He obviously reminds me of Michael Vick, with a better passing vision, but about the same slightness of build. And we know how Vick has dealt with injuries. I'm surprised that even today, there's really only one or two QBs fitting the Russell Wilson mold (Mahomes, to a smaller extent), that are runners who almost never take bad hits and run mainly to buy time to make a sure pass.