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Auden Tate seeking trade
(09-20-2020, 12:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Ross hasn't limited the offense?

Which is more important?
1. Put a guy in who fills a role
2. Put a guy in who will produce

P.S. Tate isn't so "painfully slow" that he limits the offense. He's have to run a 5 to be "painfully slow" and limit the offense. 

Ideally, you want a guy who fills the role and produces.  If it comes down to between the two, you have to look long and hard at if the increased production from the individual player is greater than the hit the rest of the offense will take from having them in there.  For example, Reggie Kelly didn't "produce" as an individual on the stat sheet.  Reggie Kelly played a role that enabled the other skill players around him to be more effective.  Also, the guy who fills a role may develop to the point where he can produce.  The guy who produces will never fill the desired role.  

Besides which, based on production, which player should play more?

Player A=40 catches on 80 targets(50% catch%), 575 yards(14.4 YPC, 7.2 YPT), 1 TD

Player B=28 catches on 56 targets(50% catch%), 506 yards(18.1 YPC, 9 YPT), 3 TD's

It isn't a player who fits a role vs a player who is more productive.  It's literally a player who fits the role AND produces more with his targets vs a player who doesn't fit the role and isn't as productive with his targets.  The occasional highlight reel catch isn't "production."

On top of that, do you play the guy who fills the role, is more productive, and says he needs to play better or the guy who doesn't fill the role, is less productive, and has his agent whine in the media about demanding a trade if he doesn't get the ball more?  

If his speed didn't limit the offense, coaches wouldn't have asked him to move to TE throughout his career.  Simmons has openly stated that you can't use him in traditional WR roles on ST's because of his speed.  He ran a limited route tree last year.  There is a lot more pointing to him limiting the offense than not.  "Nuh-uh" isn't really a counterargument.
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