When will the Bengals front office realize..........?

[WestCoastBengalsFan]

(09-28-2020, 08:01 AM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: It's worth remembering that the way Tobin and Taylor tackled the O-line in the off-season was to cut Cordy Glenn and John Miller. I know those two aren't great and that they weren't the answer but they had two of our best 3 grades on O-line according to PFF. We actually got weaker (and cheaper) at O-line than we were going into last season.



I don't think that is entirely accurate: Fred Johnson was benched mid-game yesterday; top ten pick John Ross was made inactive after offering nothing first two games; Preston Brown was cut midway through last season; the D was revamped in the off-season including major FA acquisitions in Reader and Waynes; he moved on from Dalton; all last year's free agent signings (Miller, Webb etc) were cut or not re-signed et cetera.

I'm confident that if he's Head Coach next year we'd see him do to the O-line what they did to the D last off-season. I'm not sure how much you can change an O-line before then (ie mid-season) though. Any street free-agent or trade isn't going to know the play-book and you'd have to query why they were available. Like personnel changes any coaching changes are likely to be in-house replacements.

The question is why wasn't this done in the off-season?

The second question is then are Duke Tobin and Zac Taylor the men to fix it?

It wasn't done in the off-season because Turner convinced Zac/Tobin that they had the guys and he could make them all take a giant leap and Zac bought into it.


For your second question, Tobin has been really bad at picking Oline players for years now, Zac hasn't really addressed much as he's reliant of Turner, Zac has the rest of the team to worry about too. 

Let me clarify your other point about the changes Zac did make, i.e. Preston Brown, Ross, etc. What I'm saying above about the paper-tiger comment is that he has now had 3 weeks of real games to evaluate what's going on with the O-line, it's Monday afternoon and Turner still has a job. If the plan is to hold on for dear life until next season until any meaningful decisions are made then why keep the Turner for the rest of this year? Darrin Simmons is the most experience guy here and could easily fill in. Accountability matters right now before the season is lost and not just in off-season moves. You have good points about who would actually be available this season and would we even want those players/coaches anyway but something needs to be done to light a fire and show results matter. Get Tobin involved in the discussion too and make a trade of draft picks if necessary,  we have to get someone to protect Burrow. I hope we can agree that Burrow has the makings of a generational talent, why risk that in his first season? He's worth the investment in my opinion.