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Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!!
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(11-06-2020, 03:26 PM)fredtoast Wrote: People accuse me of "just liking to argue" buy the fact is that I have to because everyone here is a radical extremist.  Any player/coach that is not a fan favorite is the worst piece of garbage who ever lived and would never even play on another NFL team, and every player that is a fan favorite is the greatest of all time.

I repeatedly say that I like Burrow and think he has what it takes to be a very good NFL QB, but the fact is that he has not won shit or played at an extremely efficient level.  I remember when so many people here said that winning head-to-head matchups with Hall of Fame QBs leading division champion teams meant nothing if it was in the regular season.  Now all Burrow has to do is "almost" beat a mediocre team and that is proof he can win a Super Bowl.  And "great QBs don't need great players around them because they make everyone better" has turned into "He'd be great if he only had a better O-line."

All I do is speak the truth of moderation instead of jumping on the radical extremist positions so many people here have, and I am accuse of "just wanting to argue".  But if I say a player is "not as bad as many people claim" the radical extremists come back with "Fred thinks Bobby Hart is an All-Pro."

It makes me a radical extremist to say that Burrow is playing at a level that could win a Super Bowl?  

Right now, I see a very small list of QBs playing well enough to win a Super Bowl.  Imagine you are playing the Chiefs, since they are the defending champs.  Your defense needs a couple stops...a tipped ball INT, a pass defenses, etc. that gets the Chiefs to punt a couple times.  To beat them, you need a QB that can put up 30 on a very tough defense.  

I see the following QBs having proven that THIS year:

Mahommes
Wilson 
Rogers
Brady (albeit a little inconsistent)
Piggy 

I would put Burrow in that category right now based on the play I am witnessing.  This, despite a HORRIBLE offensive line (that is starting to improve to mediocre), a poor rushing attack, not much of a defense to speak of, Boyd and a rookie WR being his best weapons, and very questionable coaching decisions early in the season.  

He was robbed of a win against the Chargers, and the Colts, Browns (2), and Philly games were lost because his defense couldn't stop anything.  Give him HALF those games and he is sitting at 4-3-1.  So, you can point to only two wins, but I don't care who was quarterbacking our team in those situations, they would not have won those games, either.  I will further add that no QB has taken the pounding that Burrow has this year, and yet, he keeps coming after you.  

He has rejuvenated Gio.  He made Tate look like a Pro Bowler.  He is learning to manipulate the pocket with a very inconsistent lineup lining up in front of him.  He is doing it with an underperforming Green and Mixon.  

After witnessing all of this, I state that he is playing at a Super Bowl level, and that gets you to call me a radical extremist.  I guess we have different definitions of what that is as well.  
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Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - Wes Mantooth - 11-03-2020, 02:13 PM
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RE: Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - SHRacerX - 11-04-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - fredtoast - 11-04-2020, 08:13 PM
RE: Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - SHRacerX - 11-05-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - fredtoast - 11-06-2020, 10:34 AM
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RE: Playoffs?! Playoffs?!!! - Wes Mantooth - 11-05-2020, 11:28 AM
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