12-11-2020, 02:16 PM
(12-11-2020, 01:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I agree that close losses are still losses, but you are losing me as you go to these extremes.
Everyone from TV analyst to Vegas bookmakers to the guys who make computer programs to rank college teams all look at point differential to judge teams. So it is not as meaningless as you claim. The worse teams get beaten my more points than the better teams.
And I have no idea what you think you are proving by showing that the 2017 Browns got beat my more than a single score 10 times while it has only happened to us 4 times this year. Seems to me you are proving the point for the other side with that stat.
He said "at least we're not getting constantly getting blown out". My point is that no team gets constantly blown out. Not even one of their worst teams in the history of football.
I used the Browns as the ultimate extreme, not to show what a typical "bad team" looks like, but to look at the absolute worst of the worst. I used them to just show that even they had some close games.
6 losses by a score or less. 13 of their 16 losses by 14 or less. And again, this is arguably the worst time of time.
For a standard "bad team" look at the 3-12-1 Lions I listed from last season. 8 of the 12 losses came by a score or less, by an average of 4.5 points.
This is what losing typically looks like in the NFL. You can find any number of 2-4 wins teams over the last however many years, and find them with a decent number of one score losses.
It's ridiculous to insinuate that we're somehow closer to success because we're losing close. Most teams lose close.