Is it all ZT?

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(12-12-2020, 10:05 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: You can't count rookies. That's like saying other teams didn't add rookies too. Getting better than we were last year is irrelevant. We need to get better than our opponents got better from last year. So don't count our rookies and not other teams' rookies. 

I'll give you Jonah, but like Alexander he's been in and out of the lineup. 

Spain is a guy we picked up midseason out of desperation, and had been cut by the Bills. It was out of desperation. If you're going to make the argument that we added all this talent, at least name good players. Spain isn't good. 

You can't count Green as a positive addition either... because he's being paid 18M for virtually nothing. Right now, he's a subtraction, because of what his money could otherwise be used for. You see, to make the argument you're making those new starters have to be positive starters, and if they're not you need to show how it's the coaches doing. I don't buy that... in Green's case they tried to force him the ball the first two weeks. 

Lawson gained a starting job (frankly he was better than Dunlap) and would have many more sacks if we had any interior presence. We don't because Reader went down and Geno is shot. I'd bet he at least double that if Reader was healthy and Geno was the player he used to be. 

Reader wasn't bad either - don't take PFF as gospel. 

And calling me a Zac fanboy - I mean, are you twelve years old? Jesus, man. 

That's silly. Rookies count as talent added. We added Burrow who had a historic college year. No other team added that.

You moved the target bigtime saying Jonah and Alexander have been in and out of the lineup. Jonah just got hurt. Alexander has played most games.

You will never get even 90% health from a team. Guys miss games on every team.

Re: Green - Its funny he cant be counted as an addition because he was the main excuse used for Zacs bad year 1.

It's pointless to debate this further. Fans that make excuses for subpar performance are a big part of why a bad product is on the field. If you want a coach that wins 4.5 games in 2 years. Great! If you want to believe Zacs used car salesman pitch that we're close. Great!

I'd suggest you watch some games that the Bengals arent playing in to see how other teams do things.