12-29-2020, 09:41 AM
(12-27-2020, 09:08 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I was ready to make fun of this take, but decided to look into it. It's closer than I would have thought. It doesn't take into account Pro Bowl market difference, or All-Pros, but....
# of Pro Bowl Seasons Since 2000:
1st Overall: 41
2nd Overall: 41
3rd Overall: 52
12th Overall: 35
Does anyone have a breakdown of this by position as well, so taking out the QBs. I'd have thought 1st overall would be predominantly QBs. The gap between 2nd and 3rd is a bit more surprising.
(12-28-2020, 12:11 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Really hate to say it because I think winning is extremely important for this team, but they have to lose next week. They could drop to 12 with a win. As of now they’re 5th I do believe
We're currently 5th and can finish anywhere between 3rd and 10th.
But several of the teams we'd leapfrog if we won v Baltimore have much more winnable games, including two 5-10 teams at home to 6-9 teams (Giants and Lions) and a third at home to a 7-8 team (Broncos host Raiders).
Add in 5-10 Panthers at home to a Saints team who have already clinched the division and a 4-11 Falcons at a Buccs side who have already secured their wildcard spot and might rest players and it is perhaps unlikely that everyone other than us loses out.
The drop from 5th to 8th in each round would be the equivalent of the 56th pick, a late 2nd rounder. This is as compared to the drop from 3rd to 5th being a late 1st rounder.
I'm usually a proponent of tanking but I'd take the win. What we'd lose out in the draft I think we'd gain in being able to attract better free agents (or paying less of a premium). If I'm a free agent and the Bengals win their final 3 I'd be looking at a team that has beaten the Steelers, the Ravens, the Titans and would be getting back Joe Burrow (and numerous others). That looks like a team about to be competitive.
(12-28-2020, 01:22 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: That’s what I was getting at with a guard rising. If there happened to be a guard that rose bc everyone thought he was the next Quenton Nelson, that would be a solid pick. But we have a great shot at an edge rusher, and that’s our biggest need. Have a shot at a corner or wideout as well. Sewell was a bit of a pipe dream as he definitely goes 2 or 3. At that point the difference from drafting 6 to drafting 3rd or 4th isn’t that big (assuming Sewell is picked before us).
Is edge rusher really our biggest need?
I think it's interior pass rush.
(12-28-2020, 01:43 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: What if we beat Baltimore and end up at 11. Is Slater okay at 11?
Another name I have heard lately at the tackle spot moving up boards is the guy from Virginia Tech, Darrisaw. Scouting reports on him actually seem promising. Maybe they trade down a few spots and still land Darrisaw or Slater while adding a pick.
"He uses his hands extremely well, possessing a mean initial punch, and an efficient latch as he moves his way up towards the second level. His hips and back remain extremely flexible, Darrisaw is able to absorb contact in his pass set without compromising his anchor. Speaking of his anchor, Darrisaw plays with immense strength, tossing bodies off of the point of attack as he uses his length to keep defenders out of his frame as he frames off lanes. He plays with a high level of physicality as he looks to bury the man across from him as he plays whistle-to-whistle, giving his all for all 60 minutes."
Another consideration will be how ready these guys are. I think Slater sat out the year (as did Sewell). Will he be ready to protect a Joe Burrow returning from a serious knee injury week 1 or are these more projections for what he will be in a year or two's time with some extra polish? If one of these are the pick, do the Bengals still need to keep Hart around as insurance?
