Kapernick, Luck and Dalton

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(11-03-2015, 10:54 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Over the last 15 years the AFC North is the toughest division in football.

4 Superbowl wins from 2 different teams. 5 appearances. Multiple AFC Championship games played. Multiple teams in the playoffs, sometimes 3 out of 4.

3 of 4 teams typically 8-8 or better.

It's not even close to what the best division in football is. I would even venture to guess that the AFC North teams lose out of their division less than most other divisions, especially the division's top 3 teams.

I would venture to guess that the AFCN isn't the "best division in football" and "GRRR ROUGH N TOUGH SMASH MOUTH BALL!!!" in 2015, where we currently are living in and currently talking about.

Absolutely zero things that you've said refute my point that the AFCN is no longer the best division in the NFL. Also, the NFCW and NFCN had some great years in Andy's tenure. I will say that the AFCN has likely been the best division in the conference just about every year Andy has been a starter, and those teams have had some tough defenses along the way. I have no problem being realistic with this, but it seems some just want to still keep using the narrative that the AFCN is such a "tough" division when it doesn't look that way at this very moment. Those days could be behind us for a couple of years while Baltimore, Cleveland, and even Pittsburgh rebuild some of their weaknesses.