And so it Begins: Zeitler to Ravens

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(03-15-2021, 11:59 AM)jj22 Wrote: Ok so it was the "or something".

The thing about these "or somethings". We'd all take Denzel Ward and look where he landed. Or even the pro bowler Marshon Lattimore who this "or something" doesn't have as being much better than Dre.

I remember when you could just compare regular stats (tackles, sacks, INT, FF, TKFL) before people needed a reason to ignore the simple stats.

(03-15-2021, 12:02 PM)Au165 Wrote: Notice the line from Ward, the name is far-right but he is squarely in the center so about average to above average, same with lattimore. The lines are hard to see and if you hadn't seen this chart before you wouldn't notice it. Dre was bad, for instance, each time they played the Cardinals he was abused. In one game against locket, he gave up 9 receptions on 11 targets for 2 TD's and 70 yards.

The reason people ignore "simple stats" is because they don't tell you what is actually happening play-by-play during the game. The example I always use is that a pop pass on a jet sweep that goes for 90 yards and a TD counts as such to the QB who did absolutely nothing in that play to warrant any credit, so he should recieve none.

Four times he gave up a QB rating against of 116.7 or higher (including a 141.7 in the Seattle game you mentioned) and two other times he gave up a 92.+ (including the 2nd Seattle game). 

He gave up 2 tds with 3 ints and 3 pbu. He had 58 tackles (2nd highest of his career) with 9 stops and 11 missed tackles. 

Overall, he gave up a completion percentage of 65.9 and 637 yards (2nd highest of his career).

He also had 9 penalties accepted with 2 others that were declined.