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(08-07-2017, 11:08 PM)Emeritus Wrote: Early 2018
RD 1) Conner Williams T Texas
https://youtu.be/RvwAi0AfjtQ
https://youtu.be/Cmhn9y_aTPs
RD 2 ) Ronnie Harrison S Alabama
https://youtu.be/cK5ORU1Lvao
RD3 ) Frank Ranglow C Arkansas
https://youtu.be/c9uMW2mLf4U
RD3) Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin
https://youtu.be/kW1K0YsIjsY
RD4) Azeem Victor LB Washington
https://youtu.be/PFU2SwbKghU
RD5) Rashaad Penny RB San Diego St
https://youtu.be/98HqRF3INqY
RD5) Heath Harding CB Miami OH
https://youtu.be/tGj6rzW0n_E
RD6) Cody O Connell G Washington St
https://youtu.be/B2zLS1dx79c
RD7) Shaquem Griffin LB UCF
https://youtu.be/H6jFL3W1Z7E
Make our second rounder Billy price and switch Williams to guard and I can get with it.
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(12-15-2017, 12:46 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Make our second rounder Billy price and switch Williams to guard and I can get with it.
Nope. I wouldn't change a thing about it because the top 4 picks genuinely help the team right away. I'd even go further to say that you could start them all on Sunday!!
Right now
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(12-19-2017, 09:33 PM)Emeritus Wrote: Nope. I wouldn't change a thing about it because the top 4 picks genuinely help the team right away. I'd even go further to say that you could start them all on Sunday!!
Right now
Rangow is not a good center imo. Much better as a guard. Also don't think Williams goes in the top 2-3 rounds. But safety from bama I hate. If I'm taking safety it's Derwin James or deshon Elliot.
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(12-21-2017, 07:59 PM)Emeritus Wrote: I'm never one to really debate or lip wrestle online. I just do me thats why you'll never see a bunch of debate in my posts. Now as far as your reply...
1) Ragnow is the best OC in the draft ask pff . or me!
No he won it because my guy was injured.( Price)
2) I'm not even sure why I'm adressing this thats why I put his post injury tape up against WVU. I think he has a bit yet to prove but he'll show top 10 worthy in the off-season.( Conner Williams)
3) I like all three but this is my guy because he covers the back half like anyone and will knock your head off anytime anywhere. ( Ronnie Harrison)
That TE is pretty good too!!
Here's the thing. If you're gonna post mock drafts, you're gonna have to debate/defend your picks. Just the way it works around here.
As to your mock, I wouldn't be pissed if it turned out like that.
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(12-21-2017, 07:59 PM)Emeritus Wrote: I'm never one to really debate or lip wrestle online. I just do me thats why you'll never see a bunch of debate in my posts. Now as far as your reply...
1) Ragnow is the best OC in the draft ask pff . or me!
No he won it because my guy was injured.( Price)
2) I'm not even sure why I'm adressing this thats why I put his post injury tape up against WVU. I think he has a bit yet to prove but he'll show top 10 worthy in the off-season.( Conner Williams)
3) I like all three but this is my guy because he covers the back half like anyone and will knock your head off anytime anywhere. ( Ronnie Harrison)
That TE is pretty good too!!
1. Price is the number 1 player. Pff has always been a horrible indicator of oline play. Add in the fact he can play both at an elite level, something rangow can't do imo, and price is the obvious best center.
2. Williams I like as a second round pick but not too 10. Walter football has it that a few scouts have a day 3 grade on Williams.
3. Do u really want that kind of safety with how soft the league is? He'd be another burfict. Plus he's not a fs type more of a SS type. It's hey I really want Elliot. 4. The te is very good just don't think he'll be there. Also the 9 fingers thing.......
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PFF tracks success on the field. They do very little regarding projection.
For example, they labeled Paul Dawson an absolute stud can't miss LB prospect and that his lack of physical tools didn't matter, since he was all production.
We draft him and, immediately, it becomes obvious that not only does he not have the physical tools to start in the NFL, he doesn't even have the physical tools to cover kick offs in the NFL!
You start getting in trouble when you base your draft grades 100% on physical projections (Barkevious Mingo is an example of why this scouting technique does not work), but it has to be part of the evaluation.
and it's a part of the evaluation that PFF basically ignores, which is why I don't really take their draft grading skills seriously very often.
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(01-28-2018, 08:13 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: PFF tracks success on the field. They do very little regarding projection.
For example, they labeled Paul Dawson an absolute stud can't miss LB prospect and that his lack of physical tools didn't matter, since he was all production.
We draft him and, immediately, it becomes obvious that not only does he not have the physical tools to start in the NFL, he doesn't even have the physical tools to cover kick offs in the NFL!
You start getting in trouble when you base your draft grades 100% on physical projections (Barkevious Mingo is an example of why this scouting technique does not work), but it has to be part of the evaluation.
and it's a part of the evaluation that PFF basically ignores, which is why I don't really take their draft grading skills seriously very often.
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I like PFF from an analytical standpoint because they do the work that the average fan couldnt do. I certainly wouldnt base a mock draft on these numbers but they could be a factor certainly at least for me. I just like to watch a guy and judge whetherI think he'd fit our system. They do it weekly on some sites so why cant I. Im no expert by any means but I just love doing mocks for the team I root for which is the Bengals ofcourse.
Thanks for the perspective
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(03-13-2018, 07:13 PM)Emeritus Wrote: My post Glenn Mock
So, let me get this straight. You want to draft a LT prospect coming off an injury, after we just traded for a Boss LT coming off an injury, after the last 1st round LT we drafted coming off an injury, turned out to be a huge bust?
Sorry man, I just can't hang with that logic.
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(03-13-2018, 08:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: So, let me get this straight. You want to draft a LT prospect coming off an injury, after we just traded for a Boss LT coming off an injury, after the last 1st round LT we drafted coming off an injury, turned out to be a huge bust?
Sorry man, I just can't hang with that logic.
I think he's proven that he's come off injury quite well.
We made a move in FA that only an idiot could complain about. So here we sit now with a left tackle and a couple high draft choices still on the roster.Young depth! I like it.This would be a great place at 21 for Conner. Keep building this oline. Grab aa top notch center....Ragnow..
& Lets make a run
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(03-15-2018, 10:30 PM)Emeritus Wrote: I think he's proven that he's come off injury quite well.
We made a move in FA that only an idiot could complain about. So here we sit now with a left tackle and a couple high draft choices still on the roster.Young depth! I like it.This would be a great place at 21 for Conner. Keep building this oline. Grab aa top notch center....Ragnow..
& Lets make a run
Well, with bringing in Glenn, I think the perspective has changed a bit. I'd look more now at guys like Martinas, Jones, and Richardson. Guys that could be sure bets at RT and maybe handle LT in a pinch.
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