Bengals road to 53 man roster complete 2017 - cuts, trade, IRs

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(09-02-2017, 03:47 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Clint Boling 
Kyle Cook (was good pre-injury)
Andrew Whitworth (was labeled a guard or RT only pre-draft)
Jake Fisher is looking like a potential plus. 
Trey Hopkins


The problem the team has is with identifying talent in the collegiate level. 
They draft guys who don't belong. And no coach will do that. 
Part of that is on Alexander. 
Part of that is on the team for asking a coach to do that.  

I just want to point out you had to add Kyle Cook as "good", and also listed Hopkins (1 career game played, 0 started) and Fisher (2nd round pick with 4 bad starts in 2 years) in order to pad the success rate of a guy's TWENTY-THREE YEAR tenure as an OL coach... and still only came up with 5 names.

[Millhouse]

(09-02-2017, 03:54 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Is it official we are keeping Clarke ??  if we keep 8 and count Lawson as a End .. Clarke is cut.. also this could be the waiver wire pickup.. a DE or a OT for depth

Nothing is official yet. Jim O also just tweeted that there could be two more mild surprises to come. Maybe Clark is one of those?

[RoyleRedlegs]

(09-02-2017, 03:54 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I just want to point out you had to add Kyle Cook as "good", and also listed Hopkins (1 career game played, 0 started) and Fisher (2nd round pick with 4 bad starts in 2 years) in order to pad the success rate of a guy's TWENTY-THREE YEAR tenure as an OL coach... and still only came up with 5 names.

Anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass could see I'm listing RECENT players. 

[*bfine32*]

Have we cut Jeremy Hill yet?

[RoyleRedlegs]

#Bengals waive DL Will Clarke and DL DeShawn Williams

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) September 2, 2017

[Millhouse]

Clark did get waived.

[Pat5775]

(09-02-2017, 03:47 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Clint Boling 
Kyle Cook (was good pre-injury)
Andrew Whitworth (was labeled a guard or RT only pre-draft)
Jake Fisher is looking like a potential plus. 
Trey Hopkins


The problem the team has is with identifying talent in the collegiate level. 
They draft guys who don't belong. And no coach will do that. 
Part of that is on Alexander. 
Part of that is on the team for asking a coach to do that.  

But did they develop thanks to the coaching of PA or in spite of the coaching from PA? I really don't know, nobody does... But what I do know is that PA has an annoying habit of hyping up subpar players (Ghiacuc, Nate Livings, Dennis Roland, etc) like they're only a play or two away from being pro bowlers. His eye for talent is... Shall we say "suspect" at least. 

[PikesPeakUC]

We've made the following 30 moves to reach the NFL roster limit of 53. #Bengals50 pic.twitter.com/idCZNFE6W5

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) September 2, 2017

[Pat5775]

(09-02-2017, 04:02 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote:

#Bengals waive DL Will Clarke and DL DeShawn Williams

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) September 2, 2017

Whoa...

[Pat5775]

(09-02-2017, 04:03 PM)PikesPeakUC Wrote:

We've made the following 30 moves to reach the NFL roster limit of 53. #Bengals50 pic.twitter.com/idCZNFE6W5

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) September 2, 2017

Alrighty, so that's it? We have our team?

[Pat5775]

(09-02-2017, 04:05 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote:  Are you ***** kidding me?

This is over. Quit moving the goalposts. 

... What?? Please clarify 

[McC]

Brandon Wilson cut. Hmm. Wonder who they try to get to the PS.

[RoyleRedlegs]

(09-02-2017, 04:05 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: ... What?? Please clarify 

"But did they develop thanks to the coaching of PA or in spite of the coaching from PA?"

This. This is a sign there is no way to actually engage in a debate with you because any success you will immediately deny is from him and all failures are his fault. 


It's a useless debate from here out. 

[*bfine32*]

(09-02-2017, 04:03 PM)PikesPeakUC Wrote:

We've made the following 30 moves to reach the NFL roster limit of 53. #Bengals50 pic.twitter.com/idCZNFE6W5

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) September 2, 2017

No major surprises. I suppose the "surprise" cut would be Clarke. 

Wouldn't be surprised if we weren't done yet. 

[Pat5775]

(09-02-2017, 04:07 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: "But did they develop thanks to the coaching of PA or in spite of the coaching from PA?"

This. This is a sign there is no way to actually engage in a debate with you because any success you will immediately deny is from him and all failures are his fault. 


It's a useless debate from here out. 

I see. So rather than even attempt to show me where I'm wrong you're just throwing in the towel. Gotcha. 

[Goalpost]

Clarke and Hardison gone

[RoyleRedlegs]

(09-02-2017, 04:08 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: I see. So rather than even attempt to show me where I'm wrong you're just throwing in the towel. Gotcha. 

I literally listed guys who improved here in Cincinnati compared to the collegiate expectations. 

Your response was "it wasn't the OL coach"

How is this on me? 

[*bfine32*]

(09-02-2017, 04:10 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: I literally listed guys who improved here in Cincinnati compared to the collegiate expectations. 

Your response was "it wasn't the OL coach"

How is this on me? 

What was Jake Fisher's collegiate expectations?

[TKUHL]

(09-02-2017, 04:02 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Clark did get waived.

Cant argue with this.

[RoyleRedlegs]

(09-02-2017, 04:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What was Jake Fisher's collegiate expectations?

Raw project OT.