Bengals Improved Pass Rush

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-11-2017, 11:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well some people have to be eating crow with MJ right now.. what a year he is having

I'll eat a little, but he still wasn't anything to write home about at DE.  DT?  That's another story.  Whoever decided to move him deserves a raise.

(10-12-2017, 12:20 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: He gets a lot of pressure. He's just really not that good at finishing. He's one of my favorite players though, so he gets a pass because he works his ass off and is a very well rounded player. Plus he seems to be a super nice guy that has fun out there. 

Exactly.  How many times have we seen Big Los downfield chasing ball carriers down from behind, even stripping the ball at times?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-12-2017, 09:52 AM)muskiesfan Wrote: Pass rush has definitely been great this season. Dunlap is not overrated. As was mentioned, he does a lot of things that don't show on the stat sheet. Others get sacks because of his pressures.

It's going to be interesting when the pass rush disappears against the Steelers because they let those motherfuckers get away with copious amounts of holding.

No doubt Muskies. Dunlap might be the most disruptive End in the NFL, he definately is not overrated if anything
the other way around. He wreaks all kinds of havoc with his bend, length, athleticism and strength. He never quits.

Still believed he deserved The Kracken nickname over that other bastid.

Lawson is the guy who has really impressed me this year along with MJ on the inside.

Brilliant stuff going on with Guenther and Burney. Adding a smaller pass rushing specialist and putting MJ at DT =

Brilliant. :andy:

[Socal Bengals fan]

I dont get the MJ hype. he made 2 coverage sacks in one game this year. meanwhile Carlos, Geno n Lawson are creating havoc on every play and actually beating their man off the snap. not just standing there n tackling the QB as he runs into him

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-13-2017, 01:15 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I dont get the MJ hype. he made 2 coverage sacks in one game this year. meanwhile Carlos, Geno n Lawson are creating havoc on every play and actually beating their man off the snap. not just standing there n tackling the QB as he runs into him

Still, MJ is a lot better than i thought he would be and it was a smart move putting him at DT on passing downs.

[sandwedge]

(10-13-2017, 01:15 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I dont get the MJ hype. he made 2 coverage sacks in one game this year. meanwhile Carlos, Geno n Lawson are creating havoc on every play and actually beating their man off the snap. not just standing there n tackling the QB as he runs into him

Hey at least he did something!!!

[sandwedge]

(10-13-2017, 01:55 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Still, MJ is a lot better than i thought he would be and it was a smart move putting him at DT on passing downs.

I have actually seen a lot college teams going to an all DE line on obvious passing downs this year. Paulie must have been paying attention to it!

[*rfaulk34*]

(10-13-2017, 01:15 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I dont get the MJ hype. he made 2 coverage sacks in one game this year. meanwhile Carlos, Geno n Lawson are creating havoc on every play and actually beating their man off the snap. not just standing there n tackling the QB as he runs into him

I'd have to question if you're watching the games if you haven't seen the effort MJ has been putting out this year. 

[TheUberHuber]

(10-13-2017, 01:15 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I dont get the MJ hype. he made 2 coverage sacks in one game this year. meanwhile Carlos, Geno n Lawson are creating havoc on every play and actually beating their man off the snap. not just standing there n tackling the QB as he runs into him

He has been helping in the run d too.

[Derrick]

(10-11-2017, 08:45 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Dunlap has been getting pressure, but he's also helped other players get sacks as well due to his pressure. It doesn't show on the stat line, but it's important.

I think he'll start collecting sacks as more teams double team others.

Agree. I have seen Dunlap getting double-teamed while another Bengal takes down the QB. Dunlap is very much contributing. Can you imagine how good he will be rushing against a single blocker once opponents realize they are going to get sacked by someone anyway? Dunlap will be flying around like he just got an anchor lifted off his back.

[Shake n Blake]

(10-11-2017, 11:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well some people have to be eating crow with MJ right now.. what a year he is having

Maybe a little for wishing for him to be released, but not for how he performed over the last 4 years. He only averaged 4.0 sacks per season over than span. He hasn't been earning his contracts.

Like Wyche said, we should be thanking whoever decided to kick him inside. 

(10-12-2017, 12:16 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Anyone else feel that Dunlap is overrated? Felt for a while that he gets more credit than he deserves. He SOMETIMES gets pressure. meh.

The Bengals all-time leader in sacks (58.0) and forced fumbles (16) is overrated. Now I've heard it all.

[*SHRacerX*]

(10-11-2017, 08:45 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Dunlap has been getting pressure, but he's also helped other players get sacks as well due to his pressure. It doesn't show on the stat line, but it's important.

I think he'll start collecting sacks as more teams double team others.

Excellent point.  Lap showed a video of what Geno did to allow MJ a free run at the QB, leading to a sack.  As one of MJ's harshest critics, I will give the guy credit that he has surprised me with his inside ability.  He is like a bigger version of Dingleberry.   But, yes, Geno and Dunlap are creating a lot in the middle.  

[*SHRacerX*]

(10-11-2017, 09:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Pass rush is a huge indicator of defensive prowess and makes the entire secondary better.

This.  Yet, this makes me puzzled as to why Dre seems to be struggling.  He (Dre) is a notorious slow starter, but what Dennard is doing with his minimal game-playing experience is somewhat amazing compared to Dre and Jones. 

I think the next thing we will see is QBs feeling that pressure even when they aren't getting home, rushing throws, and getting INTs.  

[*SHRacerX*]

(10-11-2017, 10:18 PM)zygrot24 Wrote: Carl Lawson is an animal. He's only going to get better. I think Carlos will start to get going. And honestly hope to see more of glaslow. And also hope big Billings can get right.

Future sure looks a whole lot brighter with these guys out there.  Glasgow is very impressive for a rookie DT.  Love his tenacity.  I think he can evolve in to a Derek Wolfe-type player.  A lot of VERY high DTs (in terms of draft order) don't have an impact their first year or two, but Glasgow, as a fourth rounder, is proving to be a very solid player.  

I'm a little disappointed in Billings thus far, but I am convinced the light will go on.  Physically, he has unmatched strength and athleticism at his position.  

Love Willis, Lawson, and Chris Smith from Jax.  These guys will only make a bigger impact as the season goes on. 

[*Synric*]

(10-13-2017, 02:44 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I have actually seen a lot college teams going to an all DE line on obvious passing downs this year. Paulie must have been paying attention to it!

The Bengals have been doing it for sometime now. Fanane Gilberry Hunt Clarke all those guys have moved inside.

Difference is they have a talented group of pass rushers on this outside this season.


To the OP: I love the way Lawson rushes the passer. He knows his limitations and how to get around them. Lawson doesn't have great bend that you see from alot of the better rushers but he's able to turn his shoulders to make it harder for OT to get their hands on him.