Ian Rapoport: Bengals reaching out to non-in-house candidates

[Bengalpool]

(01-02-2018, 11:37 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: Well, I hope you're right. 

But I find it hard to believe Mike gives any shred of a shit about fans and attendance. If he did, Marv would have been gone immediately after the Ravens game and this will-he-stay/will-he-go nonsense they're dragging out wouldn't be happening. 

Mike must realize keeping Marvin will result in record-setting lows in attendance next season. There is simply no good reason to entertain the idea that Marv should still be coaching in Cincy. And yet, here we are. 

Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

[Pat5775]

(01-02-2018, 12:12 PM)Takedown Wrote: Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

 
Damn! 28th even in 2015? Yikes... Does that scale take into account the small size of PBS?

[Bengalpool]

(01-02-2018, 12:40 PM)Pat5775 Wrote:  
Damn! 28th even in 2015? Yikes... Does that scale take into account the small size of PBS?

Yeah but still.

Rankings ESPN

[Shake n Blake]

Quote:"The one thing that we've been consistent on since I began here is staying on the same page and I think that's important," Lewis said. "There's a direction that the owner wants to have, there's a direction that I have to -- he's hired me to do a job and we've got to make sure we stay aligned in that, and if his direction is different than my direction, then it's probably not good. We just have to make sure, I have to make sure, we're all on the same page."

Is it a stretch for me to think Mike Brown wanting John Ross is the major motivation behind this comment? We've been hearing for years that Merv has unprecedented control, and Mike/Merv even remarked during the infamous 2010 presser that Mike had only overruled Merv 1 time (we all felt at the time that they were talking about bringing Chris Henry back after Merv cut him).

Obviously speculating based on evidence, but IMO it looks like Mike overruled Marv on the Ross pick. I've never seen Marv be so hard on a 1st round pick, and something had to motivate Marv to say this. Mike had to overrule him on something. 

Honestly, it's pretty ridiculous we're still talking about control going into year 16. If Marv doesn't have it now, he's never going to get it. Someone commented that attendance figures could motivate Mikey to give up control... but it's not like attendance hasn't been low before...and if Mike cared much about attendance figures, he has to know that year 16 of Marv and another "NO CHANGE" presser isn't going to drive ticket sales.

[Brownshoe]

(01-02-2018, 12:12 PM)Takedown Wrote: Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

31st out of 31. They didn't count the LA Rams for some reason.

[*PhilHos*]

(01-02-2018, 11:02 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: For whatever reason, Mike has a real hardon for PA. Why?  

Because Mike is an ass man; a FRONT ass man.

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[*PhilHos*]

(01-02-2018, 12:12 PM)Takedown Wrote: Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

If he doesn't care about it after their 50th anniversary season then i think it's safe to say he's never cared about it.

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[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(12-31-2017, 01:19 PM)Fullrock Wrote: Apparently not looking to hire from within.

Sounds like this is bullshit and we are extending Marv for another losing season.

No hope fellas, it is worse than i ever feared.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(01-02-2018, 11:54 AM)bengaloo Wrote: There wasnt enough time. He was trying to get rid of players that didnt fit in and start building players for the type of team he wanted. It didnt look good for sure, but nobody can sit here and say with honesty that 2 years is enough time for a coach to build a team around his system and philosophy. I've heard a lot of bad things about both Marshall and Cutler. He apparently wanted really bad to get rid of them. Apparently no one else in that org did. That was the start of the bad blood from the way I remember it playing out back then. It went downhill from there. Dont get me wrong, there are other coaches I'd rather have, but I also dont think Denver is the tell tail measuring stick for McDainiels. 2 measly years? Eh.

Denver went from 2nd to last in their division under McDaniels. John Fox won Denver's division and a playoff game with Tebow in his first season after replacing McDaniels. But, somehow there isn't enough evidence to judge?

[bengaloo]

(01-02-2018, 05:03 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Denver went from 2nd to last in their division under McDaniels. John Fox won Denver's division and a playoff game with Tebow in his first season after replacing McDaniels. But, somehow there isn't enough evidence to judge?

For you there is apparently enough evidence to judge. For me there is not. I want to see coaches get their system and players in place before I make a case on whether they are a bad or good coach. I'm totally against the new trends that coaches are hired and fired after a year or 2. I have seen too many times where it takes a coach a few years before it really hit stride. I think McDaniels made a lot of mistakes, but at the same time he was trying to build "his" team. He didnt get a chance to do that if you ask me. But its ok that you dont agree.... dont really want to keep going back and forth over something so insignificant. We both know Marvin will be back, sadly. Whodey

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

McDaniels continues his sterling decision making as head coach of the Colts.

[fredtoast]

(01-02-2018, 12:12 PM)Takedown Wrote: Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

Very deceptive stats.  I am pretty sure we sold out every home game in 2006.  

But attendance is not a big concern for MB.

[*ochocincos*]

(01-02-2018, 12:12 PM)Takedown Wrote: Trust me, I'm on the same train as you.

2017: 31st
2016: 29th
2015: 28th
2014: 28th
2013: 25th
2012: 24th
2011: 32nd
2010: 27th
2009: 23rd
2008: 22nd
2007: 19th
2006: 21st

You might be right about MB not caring about fan attendance lol.

It's the fault of the Cincinnati fan base!

[Pat5775]

(02-08-2018, 09:58 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Very deceptive stats.  I am pretty sure we sold out every home game in 2006.  

But attendance is not a big concern for MB.

That's right...

Didn't we have an epic home sellout streak from 2005-2007? 

PBS is one of the smallest stadiums in the league so I think, by default, the total numbers will always be low by comparison. 

In recent years, attendance has dropped and deservedly so. I won't be shocked at all if attendance figures set record lows this upcoming season  

[*Go Cards*]

(02-08-2018, 11:09 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: That's right...

Didn't we have an epic home sellout streak from 2005-2007? 

PBS is one of the smallest stadiums in the league so I think, by default, the total numbers will always be low by comparison. 

In recent years, attendance has dropped and deservedly so. I won't be shocked at all if attendance figures set record lows this upcoming season  

Dropping half of mine. 

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(01-02-2018, 02:31 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Because Mike is an ass man; a FRONT ass man.

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I'm kinda partial to the frontbutt as well....

[Hoofhearted]

(02-08-2018, 09:58 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Very deceptive stats.  I am pretty sure we sold out every home game in 2006.  

But attendance is not a big concern for MB.

It's total tickets sold, so the numbers will be a bit deceptive. Better way to look at it (for me) is the % is was soldout. 

'06 & 07 was 100.7 (ranked 9th)% sold out
08 it started to get worse with 98.6 %, skidding into the mid teens.
15 was 93.7 (24th)
16 was 92.4 (24th)
and last year was a putrid 81.3% (last).

Looking at that you can tell when the fans started not caring anymore.

[Brownshoe]

(02-08-2018, 12:54 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: I'm kinda partial to the frontbutt as well....

[HarleyDog]

(02-08-2018, 01:16 PM)Brownshoe Wrote:

Hit

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(02-08-2018, 01:16 PM)Brownshoe Wrote:

.....I'd eat it.