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[ballsofsteel]

(09-16-2018, 08:08 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: That's kind of the point. The refs wanted to keep the Steelers in it and let them get away with one.

It's a dumb rule with too much ticky tacky BS. If you're gonna make a rule that stupid, you need to call it consistently.

This is not right. You should fly to NY with Brad and Lovenuts to see Goodell and expose this coverup. Don't forget your evidence.

[*michaelsean*]

(09-17-2018, 02:46 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: They're laughable. Go over to the gameday thread from yesterday to see just how pathetic they are. It's a ***** fest about how the refs are in the bag for the Steelers. 


I posed this question to them yesterday and have yet to get a legitimate answer, so I'll do it here. There are some posters in this thread who aren't on that one.

The $64,000 question....
If the refs and the league favor the Steelers, then why with 12:00 left in the game and the Steelers down by 12 and needing two scores, do they penalize them for an illegal formation on a punt that AB returned to midfield? The result was a rekick that was returned only to the Pit 30. That penalty cost the Steelers nearly 20 yards of field position at a critical time of the game. If the refs are indeed trying to help the Steelers, that would be the exact time that they should exercise their influence and not throw the flag. 

If any of you Cincituckians can explain that to me without going into another long and convoluted conspiracy theory, then I will freely admit that you are right and there is a bias for the Steelers. 

I didn't even know you could have illegal formation on a punt return team.  

Edit: Except maybe lining up on the long snapper. Is that what it was?

[The Real Deal]

Why so much talk about this topic? Get back to me when the Steelers are relevant in 2018.

I won’t hold my breath.

[StrictlyBiz]

You guys may be on to something. Camera men caught Tomlin with Rooney's check book giving the refs a check before the game (rumor has it that it was Bell's game check).

[McC]

(09-17-2018, 02:46 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: They're laughable. Go over to the gameday thread from yesterday to see just how pathetic they are. It's a ***** fest about how the refs are in the bag for the Steelers. 


I posed this question to them yesterday and have yet to get a legitimate answer, so I'll do it here. There are some posters in this thread who aren't on that one.

The $64,000 question....
If the refs and the league favor the Steelers, then why with 12:00 left in the game and the Steelers down by 12 and needing two scores, do they penalize them for an illegal formation on a punt that AB returned to midfield? The result was a rekick that was returned only to the Pit 30. That penalty cost the Steelers nearly 20 yards of field position at a critical time of the game. If the refs are indeed trying to help the Steelers, that would be the exact time that they should exercise their influence and not throw the flag. 

If any of you Cincituckians can explain that to me without going into another long and convoluted conspiracy theory, then I will freely admit that you are right and there is a bias for the Steelers. 

I've been to Pittsburgh.  Spent a week there one night.  And it's WAAAAAY more 'Tucky than Cincinnati ever thought of being.   At least we don't border ***** New Jersey.

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-17-2018, 04:25 PM)Wyche Wrote: As for NFL bias, I have no doubt that good ol' Rog has a love fest with the Rooneys.  I mean, they delivered the news personally to his room when he was named commish, and he and ol man Rooney shared some tears and hugs.....and maybe more.  They hand picked him FFS.  Where you see the bias is in suspensions and fines.....or lack thereof......and not so much on the field.  For instance, how in the hell was Mike Munchak's fine rescinded for pulling Reggie Nelson's hair?  He did it on national TV FFS!  No fine on Shazier helmet to helmet, no fine on Jerry Porter (or rescinded too, don't remember).  That's just from one game, with one team.  It's pretty obvious to anyone being objective about it.

Your memory is selective. 

Long before Burfict was the NFLs whipping boy it was James Harrison, who at one point received 4 "random" piss tests over a 7 month period, and $175,000 in fines in one season. He was also suspended one game the next year.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2016/08/18/james-harrison-roger-goodell-fines-history-suspension-al-jazeera-peds-timeline-everything/

Goodell also suspended Ben Roethlisberger 6 games based on an accusation. BR was never arrested or charged. Unprecedented. His punishment was way more severe than Ray Rice who was caught on video smacking his ***** up. Also way more severe than Ms Pac Mac when he was caught on video ***** slapping a woman at a bar (no fine, no suspension) after his posse shot up a strip club.

Also the Steelers were the ONLY team vote against the current CBA because it gave Goodell too much power. 

Plenty of evidence that there isn't a love fest between Rooney and Rog. 

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-17-2018, 06:02 PM)McC Wrote: Spent a week there one night. 

Impressive feat.

[6andcounting]

(09-17-2018, 11:00 AM)Wyche Wrote: I noticed him striking out on a lot of situations yesterday.....like the last Chief's possession.  CTE?

I mean, technically a hail mary would have caught the Steelers off guard there so like maybe try it. 

[The Real Deal]

(09-17-2018, 06:16 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Goodell also suspended Ben Roethlisberger 6 games based on an accusation. BR was never arrested or charged. Unprecedented. 

Brad enters conversation in 3....2....1....

[6andcounting]

(09-17-2018, 05:32 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I didn't even know you could have illegal formation on a punt return team.  

Edit:  Except maybe lining up on the long snapper.  Is that what it was?

It was a punt after a safety. There's a new rule that the kickoff coverage team has to line up within 1 yard of the ball so they can't get a running head start. On the flip side, there's some new rule about how many blockers/returners can line up within a certain box. I don't know what that rule exactly is, but it was a 5 yard penalty and a re-kick. And the way the call was explained the Chiefs didn't seem to have the option to take 5 yards off the end of the return - it had to be moved 5 yards up and re-kicked. 

[Whatever]

(09-17-2018, 06:16 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Your memory is selective. 

Long before Burfict was the NFLs whipping boy it was James Harrison, who at one point received 4 "random" piss tests over a 7 month period, and $175,000 in fines in one season. He was also suspended one game the next year.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2016/08/18/james-harrison-roger-goodell-fines-history-suspension-al-jazeera-peds-timeline-everything/

Goodell also suspended Ben Roethlisberger 6 games based on an accusation. BR was never arrested or charged. Unprecedented. His punishment was way more severe than Ray Rice who was caught on video smacking his ***** up. Also way more severe than Ms Pac Mac when he was caught on video ***** slapping a woman at a bar (no fine, no suspension) after his posse shot up a strip club.

Also the Steelers were the ONLY team vote against the current CBA because it gave Goodell too much power. 

Plenty of evidence that there isn't a love fest between Rooney and Rog. 

Let's be real here, Roethlisberger was suspended because people were crying racism.  The argument was how can you suspend an African American QB(Vick) for dogfighting and let a white QB(Ben) get off scott free with rape.  Had Vick not gotten caught, Ben wouldn't have been suspended.  After puffing himself up and swearing he would fight the McNulty civil case to the bitter end to clear his good name, he quietly settled the matter out of court.  The Milledgeville investigation was horribly botched(perhaps deliberately).  The night club where the incident happened had erased all the security tapes and scrubbed out the bathroom with bleach(destroying any DNA evidence) before the police showed up to collect evidence the next day.  

In the Pac Man incident you're talking about, he was hit in the face with a bottle by the woman.  I'm not defending his reaction, but she technically assaulted him first.

Harrison was a dirty player that was repeatedly fined, but only ever got a 1 game suspension.  Burfict got a 3 game suspension with less of a track record and the league made sure to make one of the games he was suspended for one of the Steelers games when they made the schedule.  

Furthermore, Steelers OL Cody Wallace sexually assaulted Dolphins DT Randy Starks in a pile by ramming his thumb into Stark's anus.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/1sn0p4/in_case_you_missed_it_here_is_steelers_c_cody/

Wallace was fined, but not suspended for the dirtiest on field act against another player in the history of the game.

Of course, the dirtiest off field act by a player against a rival player was Joey Porter and his posse's gang beating and felony robbery of Bengal's T Levi Jones in a Las Vegas casino.  


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE

The Las Vegas DA dropped the felony robbery charges when Jones's gold chain was "anonymously" returned to the casino and Porter received a slap on the wrist 4 game suspension.  Dude should have been banned from the game for life.

[6andcounting]

(09-17-2018, 07:43 PM)Whatever Wrote: The Las Vegas DA dropped the felony robbery charges when Jones's gold chain was "anonymously" returned to the casino and Porter received a slap on the wrist 4 game suspension. 

Source?

[*michaelsean*]

(09-17-2018, 07:07 PM)6andcounting Wrote: It was a punt after a safety. There's a new rule that the kickoff coverage team has to line up within 1 yard of the ball so they can't get a running head start. On the flip side, there's some new rule about how many blockers/returners can line up within a certain box. I don't know what that rule exactly is, but it was a 5 yard penalty and a re-kick. And the way the call was explained the Chiefs didn't seem to have the option to take 5 yards off the end of the return - it had to be moved 5 yards up and re-kicked. 

Got it. Thanks.

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-17-2018, 03:21 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: No you didn't. You said they skirt the rules and give them more chances. That play did neither. They could've let them "skirt the rules' and not called the illegal formation. Don't throw the flag and give them better field position. 

At least your attempt was the better of the two. The other one had something to do with wanting the game to be more competitive so less people tune out and ad revenue goes up, so theres that. I give you a B- for effort. It was kind of weak. 

Yes i did, and you glossed over it.

FTR, this was an A+.

(09-16-2018, 04:36 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It's more subconscious than conscious. If a call is close, the steelers will get the benefit of the doubt. It's human nature, not some grand NFL conspiracy. It happens on every level of sports. If a team is a perennial winner and they're playing an average or perennial loser, they will always get the benefit of the doubt. I played sports growing up, my son played sports growing up, i've watched sports for over 40 years. I've seen it way too many times. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-17-2018, 05:52 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: You guys may be on to something. Camera men caught Tomlin with Rooney's check book giving the refs a check before the game (rumor has it that it was Bell's game check).

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

         

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-17-2018, 07:43 PM)Whatever Wrote: Let's be real here, Roethlisberger was suspended because people were crying racism.  The argument was how can you suspend an African American QB(Vick) for dogfighting and let a white QB(Ben) get off scott free with rape.  Had Vick not gotten caught, Ben wouldn't have been suspended.  After puffing himself up and swearing he would fight the McNulty civil case to the bitter end to clear his good name, he quietly settled the matter out of court.  The Milledgeville investigation was horribly botched(perhaps deliberately).  The night club where the incident happened had erased all the security tapes and scrubbed out the bathroom with bleach(destroying any DNA evidence) before the police showed up to collect evidence the next day.  

In the Pac Man incident you're talking about, he was hit in the face with a bottle by the woman.  I'm not defending his reaction, but she technically assaulted him first.

Harrison was a dirty player that was repeatedly fined, but only ever got a 1 game suspension.  Burfict got a 3 game suspension with less of a track record and the league made sure to make one of the games he was suspended for one of the Steelers games when they made the schedule.  

Furthermore, Steelers OL Cody Wallace sexually assaulted Dolphins DT Randy Starks in a pile by ramming his thumb into Stark's anus.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/1sn0p4/in_case_you_missed_it_here_is_steelers_c_cody/

Wallace was fined, but not suspended for the dirtiest on field act against another player in the history of the game.

Of course, the dirtiest off field act by a player against a rival player was Joey Porter and his posse's gang beating and felony robbery of Bengal's T Levi Jones in a Las Vegas casino.  


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE

The Las Vegas DA dropped the felony robbery charges when Jones's gold chain was "anonymously" returned to the casino and Porter received a slap on the wrist 4 game suspension.  Dude should have been banned from the game for life.

The Bengals have had some dirty, unsavory players in their history but there's not enough bandwidth on this board to record the douchebaggery of the steelers organization. The only team that comes close to them is the Raiders and about 95% of their crap was in the 70's and early 80's. 

But they're "winners" and winners just get winked at. 

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-17-2018, 07:43 PM)Whatever Wrote: Let's be real here, Roethlisberger was suspended because people were crying racism.  The argument was how can you suspend an African American QB(Vick) for dogfighting and let a white QB(Ben) get off scott free with rape.  Had Vick not gotten caught, Ben wouldn't have been suspended.  After puffing himself up and swearing he would fight the McNulty civil case to the bitter end to clear his good name, he quietly settled the matter out of court.  The Milledgeville investigation was horribly botched(perhaps deliberately).  The night club where the incident happened had erased all the security tapes and scrubbed out the bathroom with bleach(destroying any DNA evidence) before the police showed up to collect evidence the next day.  

In the Pac Man incident you're talking about, he was hit in the face with a bottle by the woman.  I'm not defending his reaction, but she technically assaulted him first.

Harrison was a dirty player that was repeatedly fined, but only ever got a 1 game suspension.  Burfict got a 3 game suspension with less of a track record and the league made sure to make one of the games he was suspended for one of the Steelers games when they made the schedule.  

Furthermore, Steelers OL Cody Wallace sexually assaulted Dolphins DT Randy Starks in a pile by ramming his thumb into Stark's anus.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/comments/1sn0p4/in_case_you_missed_it_here_is_steelers_c_cody/

Wallace was fined, but not suspended for the dirtiest on field act against another player in the history of the game.

Of course, the dirtiest off field act by a player against a rival player was Joey Porter and his posse's gang beating and felony robbery of Bengal's T Levi Jones in a Las Vegas casino.  


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE

The Las Vegas DA dropped the felony robbery charges when Jones's gold chain was "anonymously" returned to the casino and Porter received a slap on the wrist 4 game suspension.  Dude should have been banned from the game for life.

Porter was as much a Bengal as he was a Steeler when he assaulted Jones. He was a Dolphin at that time. 

On a side note, our high school just played Porters kids hs team last Friday night. Porter was there looking pissed off because our boys unexpectedly hung with them for 3 quarters and looked to be poised to pull off an upset. 

But his kid.....  
Good player but massive shit talker. Massive. Taunting our kids on the sideline all night long. Refs should have warned him but Im sure they know who he is so he got away with it. He learned well from daddy. 

Oh, and I've never heard any connection between Vick and Ben and their punishments. Thats a first. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-17-2018, 09:06 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Source?

Ur mom told me.



Last night.



While i was IN that.

[StoneTheCrow]

(09-17-2018, 10:08 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Ur mom told me.



Last night.



While i was IN that.

No wonder she rushed me out the door. She’s a fiend.

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-17-2018, 10:40 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: No wonder she rushed me out the door.

Yeah. She's upped her daily quota.