"They stood around killing grass"

[Shake n Blake]

(11-08-2018, 02:34 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Or maybe Laps was just running his mouth. 

Of course the injury was real; he had surgery to repair it after he gave us 15 productive games with it in a contract year. He could have easily shut it down early and had the surgery instead of hurting his FA chances by having it in the off season. 

I don't see Gresh quitting on this team unless folks take Lap's BS over facts.  

(11-08-2018, 10:24 AM)Whatever Wrote: I think Lap based his opinion on what he knew at the time.  Gresham practiced all week and was a big part of the game plan, then couldn't go on game day.

The key issue is that the herniated disc wasn't discovered until Gresham did a physical with Oakland during FA.  As far as the Bengals knew, he wasn't hurt that badly.  I don't think Gresham knew how bad his back was screwed up.  If he did, he would have seen a specialist right after the season ended.

(11-08-2018, 11:18 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Agree, I think there was some animosity there among the players and ML towards Gresh for whatever reasons besides the injury. Taking plays off, not giving full effort or something ? Perhaps the injury was limiting him more than they/he knew ?

Like you say I doubt Lap would have just went all solo assassin on Gresh without hearing it around locker room. And seeing some evidence himself.

Was it all justified ? I think there pretty much had to be something there.

Exactly (Whatever and Bengalfan 74). I'm not saying Gresh was faking...I'm saying that it seems that was the feeling in the building. People were pissed at Gresh. I base that on the fact that Lap rarely "runs his mouth" as well as snarky comments Marvin made at the combine after that season.

[*bfine32*]

I will say that PA has a new gig on NFL Sirius Radio and Pat Kirwan absolutely loves him. They talk for 20 minutes about nothing but blocking. The game may have passed PA by, but he has a ton of knowledge.

Also some dude named Fred kept calling in talking about how much he loved PA

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(11-12-2018, 10:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I will say that PA has a new gig on NFL Sirius Radio and Pat Kirwan absolutely loves him. They talk for 20 minutes about nothing but blocking. The game may have passed PA by, but he has a ton of knowledge.

Also some dude named Fred kept calling in talking about how much he loved PA

Kirwan probably loves PA for his ability to say stupid shit with a straight face.  i.e.--The ketchup bottle, the CedO witch hunt, the can he knock a fat old guy over.  In fact, I've never heard anything but stupid shit come out of his cake hole.  Dumbasses do have entertainment value.