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With Zac Taylor being pegged as the next head coach, I wanted to look at other very young coaches who have been hired and what they were able to accomplish.
In the Super Bowl era, 14 head coaches have been hired between the ages of 30-35. Here is the list, with the number of years with their first team (if more than one) and their records, including playoffs:
John Madden 10 years 103-32-7 9-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Bill Cowher 15 years 149-90-1 12-9 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Mike Tomlin 12 years 126-66-1 8-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Joe Schmidt 6 years 43-34-7 0-1 PO record
Jon Gruden 4 years 38-26 2-2 PO record
Sean McVay 2017-present 24-8 1-1 PO record
Dick Nolan 8 years 54-62-5 2-3 PO record
Eric Mangini 3 years 23-25 0-1 PO record
Joe Collier 2 years & 2 games 13-16-1 0-1 PO record
Mike Shanahan 1 1/2 years 8-12
Raheem Morris 3 years 17-31
Josh McDaniels 2 years 11-17
Lane Kiffin 2 years 5-15
Dave Shula 4 1/2 years 19-52
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You just never know what you'll get in any scenario.
That said, quality of organization helps a lot. Many of the guys on the list that have failed have went to bad teams.
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Interesting
No matter what the outcome I'm just glad they finally went in a new direction.
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(01-15-2019, 01:44 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Interesting
No matter what the outcome I'm just glad they finally went in a new direction.
You know it's bad when you really don't care if things go well or not, just that they changed things up.
And for the record, I'm happy they took the risk too.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
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(01-15-2019, 01:44 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Interesting
No matter what the outcome I'm just glad they finally went in a new direction.
I'm very excited about Taylor, especially the more I listen to people who know him and have worked with him. Also, I've been watching a few interviews with him from over the years, and he definitely has a certain intensity and confidence in the ways he carries and expresses himself.
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(01-15-2019, 01:26 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: With Zac Taylor being pegged as the next head coach, I wanted to look at other very young coaches who have been hired and what they were able to accomplish.
In the Super Bowl era, 14 head coaches have been hired between the ages of 30-35. Here is the list, with years with number of years with their first team (if more than one) and their records, including playoffs:
John Madden 10 years 103-32-7 9-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Bill Cowher 15 years 149-90-1 12-9 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Mike Tomlin 12 years 126-66-1 8-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Joe Scmidt 6 years 43-34-7 0-1 PO record
Jon Gruden 4 years 38-26 2-2 PO record
Sean McVay 2017-present 24-8 1-1 PO record
Dick Nolan 8 years 54-62-5 2-3 PO record
Eric Mangini 3 years 23-25 0-1 PO record
Joe Collier 2 years & 2 games 13-16-1 0-1 PO record
Mike Shanahan 1 1/2 years 8-12
Raheem Morris 3 years 17-31
Josh McDaniels 2 years 11-17
Lane Kiffin 2 years 5-15
Dave Shula 4 1/2 years 19-52
Its like forest gump you never know what you gonna get...
All they can do is put them in the best position to succeed and the rest is on them...
We gotta do our part with the homefield advantange.. Something we struggle with.
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(01-15-2019, 01:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: You know it's bad when you really don't care if things go well or not, just that they changed things up.
And for the record, I'm happy they took the risk too.
Yes it is
There's risk involved in nearly everything you do. If this thing crashes and burns we'll just have to go in another direction. But I don't look for it to.
(01-15-2019, 01:54 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I'm very excited about Taylor, especially the more I listen to people who know him and have worked with him. Also, I been watching a few interviews with him from over the years, an he definitely has a certain intensity and confidence in the ways he carries and expresses himself.
Good to hear,
I'm ready for these playoffs to be over so we can find out who it is, haha.
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(01-15-2019, 01:54 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Its like forest gump you never know what you gonna get...
All they can do is put them in the best position to succeed and the rest is on them...
We gotta do our part with the homefield advantange.. Something we struggle with.
I do wonder if people are going to return to PBS right away. My assumption would be no.
It was miserable in the stands every game after the TB game.
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I'll take that John Madden record.
I'll pass on the Dave Shula record. We already experienced that one first hand.
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(01-15-2019, 02:18 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I do wonder if people are going to return to PBS right away. My assumption would be no.
It was miserable in the stands every game after the TB game.
I think they will, fans got what they wanted.
2500 posts and still on Special Teams, I feel I'm being Mervined here, in the doghouse!!!! Lol
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(01-15-2019, 01:26 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: John Madden 10 years 103-32-7 9-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Bill Cowher 15 years 149-90-1 12-9 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Mike Tomlin 12 years 126-66-1 8-7 PO record 1 Super Bowl title
Joe Scmidt 6 years 43-34-7 0-1 PO record
Jon Gruden 4 years 38-26 2-2 PO record
Sean McVay 2017-present 24-8 1-1 PO record
Dick Nolan 8 years 54-62-5 2-3 PO record
Eric Mangini 3 years 23-25 0-1 PO record
Joe Collier 2 years & 2 games 13-16-1 0-1 PO record
Mike Shanahan 1 1/2 years 8-12
Raheem Morris 3 years 17-31
Josh McDaniels 2 years 11-17
Lane Kiffin 2 years 5-15
Dave Shula 4 1/2 years 19-52
9 of these 14 had a better record than what Marv did over the last 3 years, so odds are, we're in store for an improvement.
3 (21%) won super bowls
6 (43%) won a playoff game
I certainly like those odds over the 0% Marvin Lewis gave us.
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(01-15-2019, 02:21 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I think they will, fans got what they wanted.
2500 posts and still on Special Teams, I feel I'm being Mervined here, in the doghouse!!!! Lol
John Ross ? Is that you ?
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(01-15-2019, 02:18 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I do wonder if people are going to return to PBS right away. My assumption would be no.
It was miserable in the stands every game after the TB game.
I can imagine; on TV, it looked quite empty.
I'll be making my way back down this year for the first time since '15, if things go well financially for me, this year.
And I'm definitely going to the Buffalo game! 
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That is interesting, better than i first thought they would be honestly. Thought it was more of a new thing since McVay has done so well but looks like there were quite a few younger coaches that did well. Wyche was pretty young when we hired him, hope it turns out somewhat like that with Taylor.
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(01-15-2019, 02:21 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I think they will, fans got what they wanted.
2500 posts and still on Special Teams, I feel I'm being Mervined here, in the doghouse!!!! Lol
I hope so, but I'm skeptical. Starting on the road and snagging a win or two would help.
Just can't see people coming back in droves solely because of a new coaching staff.
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(01-15-2019, 04:25 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I hope so, but I'm skeptical. Starting on the road and snagging a win or two would help.
Just can't see people coming back in droves solely because of a new coaching staff.
The draft always excites people.
But, they'll also need to bring in 2-3 quality free agents. No real way around it. I'm not talking about 5 year $100 million contracts...but we need to add some Tier B and C free agents.
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(01-15-2019, 04:25 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I hope so, but I'm skeptical. Starting on the road and snagging a win or two would help.
Just can't see people coming back in droves solely because of a new coaching staff.
You have every right to be skeptical. A month ago I lost all interest in this season, now I'm ready for next season already.
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The only thing that worries me at this point regarding Zac Taylor is his limited options for selecting competent coaching assistants, especially the offensive and defensive coordinators.
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