Dream Free Agents to Bolster Roster Before Draft

[McC]

(01-28-2019, 05:31 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This is my hope:

We cut Burfict, he is done.
So, that gives us some additional dollars for FA's and/or extensions.

1. Sign an OT like the ones mentioned.
2. Sign a vet cover and 3 down LB. My choice is KJ Wright.
3. Sign a 3 down DT. My choice would be Suh.
4. Sign Dennard
5. Sign Uzomah
6. Sign Eifert to 1 year prove it deal
7. Sign a vet TE

Then fill the rest of the needs with draft choices.
Round 1 - Left  OT or LB like White
Round 2 - LB or Left OT
Round 3 - CB - You can never have enough great corners
Round 4 - TE


I would also hope they consider trading AD, but only if they can get a top 10 1st round pick in 2019 with a 1st round pick in 2020 along with a 3rd round pick in 2019. I would use that pick to draft the top QB on the board when they pick.


If so, I would find a one year stop gap QB to start and mentor the rookie in 2019 like Flacco or Bortles assuming they are available.

I like AD, but maybe time for a change not because he is not capable, but because the team is not capable to win it all with him the next 2 years right now.

I am not an Andy Dalton hater.  Far from it.  But ho way in hell anyone gives up three picks for him, especially if two of them are first rounders and one of them is even top ten.  That kind of haul would get you damn near any player in the league.

[Luvnit2]

(01-29-2019, 06:49 PM)McC Wrote: I am not an Andy Dalton hater.  Far from it.  But ho way in hell anyone gives up three picks for him, especially if two of them are first rounders and one of them is even top ten.  That kind of haul would get you damn near any player in the league.

QB's always get over valued and his contract being so friendly, 3 time pro bowler, great winning record to me gets more than we got for Palmer.

But, it is just my opinion and we probably never find out, but Cowboys gave up a 1st rounder for mediocre WR (results) Cooper so anything is possible for a team with a great defense, great running game, but a major weakness at QB to consider.

[impactplaya]

I think Jared Cook would be a real nice addition.
hes alot thicker and built than Kroft. and has very deceptive speed for a big TE.
resigning Eifert would give you a nice 2 TE package that Taylor favors.

[fortyyearfan]

(01-13-2019, 04:15 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Just wanted to make a little dream scenario before the real moves start happening.

Our free agents are pretty underwhelming. So playing our usual game and hoping for comp picks should not be a plan this year. I think we let the new coach get some key pieces.

Spotrac says we have almost $50 million to spend for 2019. We have none of our own free agents to put big money into. And I love AJ. But the foot is starting to worry me. Dumping big money into WRs usually doesn't work out. So I am holding off on giving him a big extension.

*First we do the necessary thing and bolster the OL with proven players so our offense can hit the ground running.

1. Trent Brown - OT Patriots - He is a mammoth OT. 6'8" 380. At 25 years old he has a lot of good years left. Broke in to the league as a RT. Patriots robbed the 49ers in a draft day trade last year and he has been the Patriots starting LT this year. We pony up some big bucks for our new starting RT.

11.5 mil this year. 4 year 46 million. Starting tackles are expensive.

2. Mitch Morse - C Chiefs - Yep a C. Putting Price back where he played most of his college ball and plugging him in at RG. Improvement at C and improvement at RG. Chiefs have managed a high powered offense with Morse at C. Starting OL looks like Glenn, Boling, Morse, Price, Brown.

8 mil this year. 4 year 32 million.

*Then we turn our attention to LB.

3. Thomas Davis - LB Panthers - Old man Davis. Our D needs a new leadership voice. A tougher than nails 13 year vet still playing at a high level who lays it all on the line is the type of leader this D needs.

5 mil one year.

4. Deone Bucannon - LB Cards - Former college safety first round pick who has converted to LB. His career started out promising. But he hasn't lived up to the first round expectations. Not the best against the run. But we could use a LB who can cover and run. Chess piece type. Here we go. He was on his 5th year option in 2018 and the Cards tried to trade him and found no takers. So he shouldn't get that type of money. Short 2 year deal.

4 mil this year. 2 year 8 million.

5. Preston Brown - Our Free Agent - We still need a thumper in the middle. I think it was just a down year for Brown. We need to bring him back.

4 mil this year. 3 year 15 million

*Then we do something about our TE depth by hurting a couple division foes and taking their guys.

6. Tyler Eifert - Our Free Agent- He comes back again. If he accepts an incentive laden deal.

2 mil this year worth up to 8 with incentives based on games played catches and TDs.

7. Nick Boyle - TE Ravens - Quality blocker. Hard nosed throw back TE.

3 mil this year. 3 year 9 million.

8. Jesse James - TE Steelers - Nothing spectacular. A solid TE. Has played 16 games each of the previous 3 seasons. Crazy right?

4 mil this year. 3 year 12 million.

*Icing on the cake

9. Henry Anderson - DT Jets - I like Glasgow. I like Billings. I like Ringo. I don't think either of the 3 is a true stud though. I want to put a stud next to Geno while he still has some good years left. Henry Anderson was a monster as a rookie but tore his ACL late in the year. It made his second year rocky and he said he was never healthy. His 3rd year he was the 15th ranked run stopper but it was again cut short when he got another fluke injury, this time a laryngeal fracture (yea some kind of weird neck/throat shit). The Colts then traded him to the Jets for cheap. He had the best year of his career this year. 12th most pressures in the league from the interior and 7 sacks. Dude is a brute. At 6'6" 300lbs I have wanted him on my team since watching him beat guys up at Stanford. Only 27, I think this is a player on the rise. He is going to get some coin.

8 mil this year. 3 year 24 million.

49.5 million total for 2 of our own and 7 outside free agents who are going to contribute a ton. Then we would be able to use the draft to go best player available. And hopefully be aggressive with the boatload of picks we are going to have and make some moves in the draft or use the late picks to acquire some vets that will come in and contribute right away.

Do all of us die hard Bengal fans a huge favor and print this out and send several copies to the front office addressed to Katie and Duke for sure.If they saw this,I do believe they would enjoy this and maybe just maybe it would give them some ideas,This article is excellent and coming from a 48 year fan,I do believe you are on to something positive.Please send this to the front office.Thank you from the forty-year fan,

[Yojimbo]

My top priority, Bobbie Massie, is staying with Da Bears. Next choice for an OT would be Trent Brown.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-13-2019, 01:13 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: I think your numbers are way off. If we spend all that money we have no money to pay the rookies, no money for extensions (and we should extend Boyd this summer), no money for an injury pad, and many of those sites only count the top 51, rather than 53, players. All that typically costs 15-17 million.

Overthecap.com says we have 52 million. Once we cut Burfict, and we will, we have about 58 million. Then we need to make offers to some of our RFA and ERFA players, including (Redmond, Hopkins, Tupou, McRae and Wilson; whether we let a guy like Tupou walk is immaterial). Hopkins is complicated, because an original round tender is about 2 million, but not compensation if we lose him. A 2nd round tender is about 3 million, and we're virtually guaranteed to keep him. I think we lose him if we only pay 2 million, so I'm going to figure on 3 million. The other 4 get minimum salary, bringing us back down to a little over 55 million.

Put the transition tag on Denard, at 12.224 million, brings us down to 43.6 million (rounding). Corners are expensive, and we need them in a passing league. Nickel CB spends more time on the field than a third LB, so we drop some cash on this. Kirkpatrick isn't going anywhere either.

Re-sign Uzomah to an APY of about 5 million, bringing us down to 39 million. Gutty player in an otherwise empty TE room.

External free agents: Sign Ja'Waun James from the Dolphins for an APY of about 10 million. Just to be conservative I'm going to say 11 million. Then sign Jordan Hicks from Philly, APY of about 6 million. New coach Taylor has a connection to James from Miami days, and Hicks is a Cincy product. This brings us down to 24.3 million.

So if we want to pay our rookies, extend Boyd, be able to sign anybody at all when guys get hurt next year, etc, we then have 6-7 million left, not 24.3 million.

We use that on some combination of OT depth, Michael Johnson, Preston Brown, back up FS, etc. Just for the sake of argument, I'm going to say Preston Brown at 1 year, 4 million, Bobby Hart at 1 year, 2.5 million, and a safety like Kurt Coleman, whom New Orleans is sure to cut, at 1 year, 2 million. This brings us to 17.6 million. You figure in minimum type contracts for guys like Vinny Rey, Matt Lengel, and 2-3 minimum salary vets, and we're around or slightly under 17 million.

*This* is realistic. I'm telling you, use the free agency calculator at Overthecap.com, it's far better for thinking up an offseason: https://overthecap.com/calculator/cincinnati-bengals/

Then in the first round pick a blue chip defender at any position other than safety, and a TE on day 2.

This is realistic, would really like Hicks, i just don't know how well JuWaan James has played in the NFL. Haven't watched him much. My guys are Seantrel Henderson and KJ Wright who i think are realistic as external FA's. Don't bring back MJ, he just keeps falling down that cliff.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-30-2019, 02:13 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I think Jared Cook would be a real nice addition.
hes alot thicker and built than Kroft. and has very deceptive speed for a big TE.
resigning Eifert would give you a nice 2 TE package that Taylor favors.

I agree, would love to have Cook. TE is a definate hole but it is deep at TE in this draft, really deep.

Think we could get atleast one good TE in the 3rd and a talent will drop a ways, it is that deep.

Plus i think if we sign back Uzomah and give Eifert an incentive laden contract, both LB'er and OL are much bigger holes.

[*psychdoctor*]

(01-31-2019, 03:39 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: My top priority, Bobbie Massie, is staying with Da Bears. Next choice for an OT would be Trent Brown.

Trent Brown would be costly but he is huge!  He is like 6'8" 360 RT.  And if the Bengals drafted Risner or someone decent, in case Glenn doesn't work out, they would be much better!  

I would say Trey Flowers from the Patriots in case they let MJ go.  But I also like Ringo!  I just like his name because I named a cat Ringo.  

[SladeX]

The op mentioned C as a possiblity. Not having read this thread yet, I saw where the Jets C is available. For the same reason mentioned, I wondered if he wss a good sign. A starter, that's all i know about him. The interior would be set, though.

[*SHRacerX*]

(01-13-2019, 04:15 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Just wanted to make a little dream scenario before the real moves start happening.

Our free agents are pretty underwhelming. So playing our usual game and hoping for comp picks should not be a plan this year. I think we let the new coach get some key pieces.

Spotrac says we have almost $50 million to spend for 2019. We have none of our own free agents to put big money into. And I love AJ. But the foot is starting to worry me. Dumping big money into WRs usually doesn't work out. So I am holding off on giving him a big extension.

*First we do the necessary thing and bolster the OL with proven players so our offense can hit the ground running.

1. Trent Brown - OT Patriots - He is a mammoth OT. 6'8" 380. At 25 years old he has a lot of good years left. Broke in to the league as a RT. Patriots robbed the 49ers in a draft day trade last year and he has been the Patriots starting LT this year. We pony up some big bucks for our new starting RT.

11.5 mil this year. 4 year 46 million. Starting tackles are expensive.

2. Mitch Morse - C Chiefs - Yep a C. Putting Price back where he played most of his college ball and plugging him in at RG. Improvement at C and improvement at RG. Chiefs have managed a high powered offense with Morse at C. Starting OL looks like Glenn, Boling, Morse, Price, Brown.

8 mil this year. 4 year 32 million.

*Then we turn our attention to LB.

3. Thomas Davis - LB Panthers - Old man Davis. Our D needs a new leadership voice. A tougher than nails 13 year vet still playing at a high level who lays it all on the line is the type of leader this D needs.

5 mil one year.

4. Deone Bucannon - LB Cards - Former college safety first round pick who has converted to LB. His career started out promising. But he hasn't lived up to the first round expectations. Not the best against the run. But we could use a LB who can cover and run. Chess piece type. Here we go. He was on his 5th year option in 2018 and the Cards tried to trade him and found no takers. So he shouldn't get that type of money. Short 2 year deal.

4 mil this year. 2 year 8 million.

5. Preston Brown - Our Free Agent - We still need a thumper in the middle. I think it was just a down year for Brown. We need to bring him back.

4 mil this year. 3 year 15 million

*Then we do something about our TE depth by hurting a couple division foes and taking their guys.

6. Tyler Eifert - Our Free Agent- He comes back again. If he accepts an incentive laden deal.

2 mil this year worth up to 8 with incentives based on games played catches and TDs.

7. Nick Boyle - TE Ravens - Quality blocker. Hard nosed throw back TE.

3 mil this year. 3 year 9 million.

8. Jesse James - TE Steelers - Nothing spectacular. A solid TE. Has played 16 games each of the previous 3 seasons. Crazy right?

4 mil this year. 3 year 12 million.

*Icing on the cake

9. Henry Anderson - DT Jets - I like Glasgow. I like Billings. I like Ringo. I don't think either of the 3 is a true stud though. I want to put a stud next to Geno while he still has some good years left. Henry Anderson was a monster as a rookie but tore his ACL late in the year. It made his second year rocky and he said he was never healthy. His 3rd year he was the 15th ranked run stopper but it was again cut short when he got another fluke injury, this time a laryngeal fracture (yea some kind of weird neck/throat shit). The Colts then traded him to the Jets for cheap. He had the best year of his career this year. 12th most pressures in the league from the interior and 7 sacks. Dude is a brute. At 6'6" 300lbs I have wanted him on my team since watching him beat guys up at Stanford. Only 27, I think this is a player on the rise. He is going to get some coin.

8 mil this year. 3 year 24 million.

49.5 million total for 2 of our own and 7 outside free agents who are going to contribute a ton. Then we would be able to use the draft to go best player available. And hopefully be aggressive with the boatload of picks we are going to have and make some moves in the draft or use the late picks to acquire some vets that will come in and contribute right away.

I "bolded" my agreements.  I think Dennard needs signed, as does Hart as a back up at the very least (or extra TE).  I love the idea of Anderson and Bucannon.  Boyle was a guy I wanted on draft day (he was taken a pick after we took Uzomah) and I was pissed because Uzomah was another athlete that didn't know the position, but he has worked his way in to a good starting role, so I would sign him as well.

A TE corps of Uzomah, Boyle, and Eifert would be outstanding with either Cethan Carter or Mason Shreck rounding out the 4 so they may have special teams contributors as well.

If you were able to pull these off (I didn't want Davis because I want a young striker at LB that can be the future centerpiece of this defense), you could let the draft come to you and go after another DT or DE (depth always seems to be an issue here), get the badass LB we so desperately need (White) and even go after quality players to compete at Safety, CB, and G/OT.

I would be ecstatic if this would happen.