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These moves seem to be setting us up to draft a QB and rebuild.
Needs were TE, RT...they re-signed backups for starter money.
Are we putting ourselves in position to rebuild?
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We're gonna have to when Dalton is shattered into eighty seven pieces.
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(03-11-2019, 05:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: These moves seem to be setting us up to draft a QB and rebuild.
Needs were TE, RT...they re-signed backups for starter money.
Are we putting ourselves in position to rebuild?
I don't actually think so. If this was a true rebuild, you'd see finances held back to store up for a big spending year in a couple years once the team is ready to contend again. You don't spend $6 mill and $7 mill a year on backup-level players if you're going to rebuild.
EDIT - Or maybe you do, what do I know?
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(03-11-2019, 05:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: These moves seem to be setting us up to draft a QB and rebuild.
How the hell do any of the moves we have made signify we are drafting a QB?
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(03-11-2019, 05:22 PM)Big Boss Wrote: We're gonna have to when Dalton is shattered into eighty seven pieces.
Andy Dalton was the 28th most sacked QB in the NFL last year
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(03-11-2019, 06:35 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Andy Dalton was the 28th most sacked QB in the NFL last year
So your saying our offensive line did a good job protecting him ? He has a quick release which helps him out when guys like Hart and Redmond are letting guys blow by them. Or maybe he had less opportunities to get sacked because are defense was getting ran all over last season. Plus he missed a bunch of games due to injury sure that factors in.
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Nope, reload
Hart, Redmond, MJ, Burfict all coming back.
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(03-11-2019, 05:28 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How the hell do any of the moves we have made signify we are drafting a QB?
Gonna need one with Hart getting starter money. Dalton is going to be running for his life.
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(03-11-2019, 07:00 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Nope, reload
Hart, Redmond, MJ, Burfict all coming back.
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(03-11-2019, 05:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: These moves seem to be setting us up to draft a QB and rebuild.
Needs were TE, RT...they re-signed backups for starter money.
Are we putting ourselves in position to rebuild?
Rebuild? Makes no sense because they would be saving cap money for the future and signing million dollar TE's versus 6 million. RT for 2 million versus 7 million.
Also, they would be trading Geno, AJ and AD
2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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(03-11-2019, 05:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: These moves seem to be setting us up to draft a QB and rebuild.
Needs were TE, RT...they re-signed backups for starter money.
Are we putting ourselves in position to rebuild?
Actually they signed backups for what the market is dictating.
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(03-11-2019, 07:34 PM)Beaker Wrote: Actually they signed backups for what the market is dictating.
Let's see after FA where the costs are for tackles and so on. I am guessing after all signings, Hart is like 50th highest paid tackle in the NFL. That would make your statement accurate.
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Rebuild? No. This isn't a traditional rebuild year for Cincinnati. There are four ways to rebuild:
1. Burn the house down and start over entirely.
2. Get a new coaching staff and rebuild the existing team.
3. Keep the coaching staff and get new players.
4. Whatever the BLEEP Cleveland has been doing since 1964.
The Bengals have chosen the safest pick, #2. It's a lot easier for new coaches to evaluate talent on existing players than it is looking ahead to free agency or the draft and wondering, "What if?" Cincinnati has plenty of talent at the skill player positions on offense and there are some high performers on defense as well. The trick is raising everyone's level of performance -- "The Patriot Way" -- such that weaknesses are eliminated.
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Well honestly that was my first thought. All the mocks have us taking a tackle at #11.
Now we're all set with bookend mediocre tackles. So do we go QB?
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(03-11-2019, 07:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Well honestly that was my first thought. All the mocks have us taking a tackle at #11.
Now we're all set with bookend mediocre tackles. So do we go QB?
No. We go either best offensive lineman on the board or best linebacker on the board. There's no reason to draft a quarterback in the first round because he'll end up holding a clipboard.
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(03-11-2019, 06:44 PM)lone bengal Wrote: So your saying our offensive line did a good job protecting him ? He has a quick release which helps him out when guys like Hart and Redmond are letting guys blow by them. Or maybe he had less opportunities to get sacked because are defense was getting ran all over last season. Plus he missed a bunch of games due to injury sure that factors in.
Simply saying the "Andy's going to get killed" narrative is tired and no longer has merit. All QBs get sacked; and believe it or not some much more than Andy and it's not because of a difference of 0.02 second release time.
Seems the only time Andy gets hurt is when he's doing something a QB is not expected to do. ie making tackles, scrambling for ball snapped over head. Keep Hopkins at Center last year and Andy doesn't get hurt.
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(03-11-2019, 07:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Simply saying the "Andy's going to get killed" narrative is tired and no longer has merit. All QBs get sacked; and believe it or not some much more than Andy and it's not because of a difference of 0.02 second release time.
Seems the only time Andy gets hurt is when he's doing something a QB is not expected to do. ie making tackles, scrambling for ball snapped over head. Keep Hopkins at Center last year and Andy doesn't get hurt.
But wait, you mean our first round center got AD killed. I thought 1st round picks never made huge mistakes
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If we are rebuilding then we better trade Andy, AJ, Geno, and Carlos... With that being said I don't think there rebuilding there just dumb.
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