***Official 2019 NFL Draft Discussion Thread***

[Schmitbuck]

(04-26-2019, 10:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But the biggest bytch to date is....We could have gotten Irv Smith

And they made the statement that that's not the kind of TE they wanted for this offense and that they put value in blocking. 

[BengalsRocker]

(04-26-2019, 10:17 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You can't really evaluate a draft pick for about 5 years, so you're just going to have to keep your mouth shut until 2024.  Sorry.

Then if he doesn't play he'll basically be a rookie... so...

[StoneTheCrow]

(04-26-2019, 10:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But the biggest bytch to date is....We could have gotten Irv Smith

I was happy when Smith was taken because I didn’t want TE.

I’m Sweet Dee and the joke’s on me.

[t3r3e3]

(04-26-2019, 10:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But the biggest bytch to date is....We could have gotten Irv Smith

Your boy Sharping, Nasir Adderley, any one of 3 4 DT’s to pair with Geno, Wilson/Cashman, AJ Brown/Hakeem Butler/Parris Campbell, etc. All could be argued made more sense than Sample. I hope Sample turns out to be a steal who provides stout blocking with Heath Miller-like receiving skills. Still seems like a 1-3 round reach. I liked Kahale Warring more than any of the remaining TE’s.

[Shake n Blake]

(04-26-2019, 10:13 PM)Joelist Wrote: Seems that it is not Sample the player people are upset about - it is taking him in the second when he would have been there in the third and when we have other gaping holes that have to be addressed.

People are claiming he's a 4th-6th round talent, which is all about Sample the player. 

Because he's perceived as a "reach", I wonder if he'll get a fair shot, as a player.

[Kingslayer]

Quoting Bruce Aryans

"If you draft for need, you get fired."

[*bfine32*]

(04-26-2019, 10:18 PM)Kingslayer Wrote: Defense better be the focus tomorrow

We still have a pick tonight and I too hope they go D. Big names still available

[RunKijanaRun]

Take another OL if you have to keep trying to improve the run game. Trade up a little and grab one of those high-caliber OL that were still on the board. There is no justification for this pick. None. Even if he does turn out to be as good on a non-descript blocking TE as he can be, you still could have had this guy later.

Whatever. We’ve made our peace with so much shit over the years. What’s one more log?

[cinci4life]

Rosen officially a fish.

[BengalsRocker]

(04-26-2019, 10:19 PM)Schmitbuck Wrote: And they made the statement that that's not the kind of TE they wanted for this offense and that they put value in blocking. 

And they said they like "strong character" yet employ Turner.

[BURROWorBUST]

(04-26-2019, 10:16 PM)Shady Wrote: Feels a little like drafting Dennis Roland in the 2nd round. 

We'll see.

Interesting to watch how Taylor is building this team with character guys. Not sure how it's going to work out. But I'd guess Wample will be our starting TE.

Quote:the 6-4, 255-pound Sample, all-conference the last two years and academic all-conference the last three. Another “1’ character guy in the wake of first-round pick Jonah Williams, Sample runs a 4.7-second 40-yard and has “sneaky speed and quickness,” according to Ourlads Scouting Services.

[*psychdoctor*]

(04-26-2019, 10:16 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I can see a guy who claims Bobby Hart is a great player to rush the podium to draft a 4th round TE in the 2nd.  It's like running to the Christmas tree to find a Turbo Grafix 16...or something.

To be fair, it was Turner who gushed over Bobby "the passion" Hart, not Taylor.  With that said, it reminds me of a favorite movie called "A Christmas Story" when that kid wanted the BB gun i think Red Ryder.  

Sample is this years Red Ryder.  

[t3r3e3]

Dolphins got a steal.

[*rfaulk34*]

(04-26-2019, 10:03 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: ...and just like that, Sample is in the message board doghouse before he's been issued a uniform. 

Unless this guy has a 2 pack-a-day habit, I'll give him a shot to prove himself before bashing. 

I don't think his abilities or potential are a question at all. 

It's where he was drafted. 

[JumboTron]

(04-26-2019, 10:20 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Take another OL if you have to keep trying to improve the run game. Trade up a little and grab one of those high-caliber OL that were still on the board. There is no justification for this pick. None. Even if he does turn out to be as good on a non-descript blocking TE as he can be, you still could have had this guy later.

Whatever. We’ve made our peace with so much shit over the years. What’s one more log?

I laughed way harder than I should've at this.

[*psychdoctor*]

(04-26-2019, 09:59 PM)tBengal Wrote: TE coach says he’s “adequate” in the passing game. Yay.

I thought it was the OC.  

[*Nately120*]

I called that Dolphins trade down then trade for Rosen, for what it's worth.

[Joelist]

(04-26-2019, 10:20 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: People are claiming he's a 4th-6th round talent, which is all about Sample the player. 

Because he's perceived as a "reach", I wonder if he'll get a fair shot, as a player.

It's not about the player per se - it is everyone reading draft sites (which is all we have) and seeing grades of 4th round or lower. To me we did reach  as you could make bank Sample would be there next round. Meanwhile we have a desperate situation at LB that is unaddressed. 

I know we are supposed to trust the coaches and so far ZT seems an improvement. But the trust line on ANY Bengal decision makers is extremely short because of the sorry past. 

[BobJones4980]

(04-26-2019, 10:10 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I asked 3 times after we traded back, who did folks want that we "passed" on and I got crickets. Burt as soon as we select, everybody has an opinion. 

That dude has no clue honestly, just like everyone else here.

We have no idea how NFL teams are ranking guys, this idea that we traded back and missed out on all the guys we wanted is nonsense with no evidence to back it up, same with people claiming hed be on the board 1-3 rounds from now.

I dont love the pick but all these people claiming they know what the Bengals or any other NFL team were gonna do are just full of shit.

[*Nately120*]

(04-26-2019, 10:22 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: To be fair, it was Turner who gushed over Bobby "the passion" Hart, not Taylor.  With that said, it reminds me of a favorite movie called "A Christmas Story" when that kid wanted the BB gun i think Red Ryder.  

Sample is this years Red Ryder.  

Taylor doubled-down on Jim's gushing, though.  I don't mind, it's all coach-speak BS, but it's funny he says Hart is great and then we want him being a pseudo-GM for us.