12-20-2019, 03:21 PM
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Worst Case Offseason Scenario?
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12-20-2019, 03:23 PM
Worst Case Scenario:
- If they stay: Turner Kirkpatshit Dalton Glenn Price Vigil If they go: Taylor (he needs another year to put his players in place, if he sucks in 2020 then bye Felicia. If we make a HC change after one year I think it would be a disaster) Green (Burrow needs a top receiver to throw too, I say tag AJ and make him prove he can stay healthy)
Confucius say, he who go to bed with itchy butt wake up with smelly finger.
12-20-2019, 03:59 PM
(12-20-2019, 03:23 PM)WestCoastBengalsFan Wrote: Worst Case Scenario: What if I gave you an alternative? AJ Green's tag is 18 million. He really wants a long term deal, which will very likely be $16+ mill a year for multiple years. Rather than bring Green back, put that money toward Cory Littleton or an OL and then draft a WR on Day 2? We've seen that WRs can come in as rookies and have a big impact, plus this is one of the best WR classes in years so the talent on Day 2 should be outstanding. I think that's a better improvement than Green+rookie OL/LB.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive. Sorry for Party Rocking!
12-20-2019, 04:25 PM
(12-20-2019, 03:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: What if I gave you an alternative? The trouble is you solve one hole by creating a new one and the Bengals don't have enough draft picks to fill all their holes. That second round pick then stops you filling a different hole. I think the Bengals will lack high draft picks more than cap room this off-season. What the off-season will turn around is whether they can get a suitor for Dalton. Get a draft pick for him and get his $17m cap hit freed up and you can still sign Littleton and AJ Green, use that second round pick on protecting Burrow and still have the pick from the Dalton trade remaining. What we need is Dalton to play lights out in a tie against Miami and then in a win against the Browns to drive up his trade value.
12-20-2019, 04:46 PM
(12-20-2019, 04:25 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: The trouble is you solve one hole by creating a new one and the Bengals don't have enough draft picks to fill all their holes. That second round pick then stops you filling a different hole. Correct but the intent is to 1) get a player in his prime (Littleton) vs someone who's been injured a lot the past few years and exiting his prime (AJ), and 2) going after a position in the draft with a really strong draft class vs one that doesn't really have a lot of great prospects (WR vs LB).
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive. Sorry for Party Rocking!
12-20-2019, 05:34 PM
(12-20-2019, 04:46 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Correct but the intent is to 1) get a player in his prime (Littleton) vs someone who's been injured a lot the past few years and exiting his prime (AJ), and 2) going after a position in the draft with a really strong draft class vs one that doesn't really have a lot of great prospects (WR vs LB). I can see the logic in that approach (that should also have been the strategy at the trade deadline) it's just I don't think re-signing Green precludes them from going after a player like Littleton as well. With it being a strong WR draft I'd still look to draft a receiver but maybe look at utilizing a later pick if good WRs are going to fall because of the depth. Where re-signing AJ would help is that they wouldn't need to reach for someone at WR who can start immediately, they can instead target someone to eventually replace Ross (whose option won't be taken up for next year). There's always a premium on players who can start immediately, by forgoing the need for immediate impact you can get value later in the draft. Another Marvin Jones would certainly be nice.
12-20-2019, 05:47 PM
(12-20-2019, 04:25 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: The trouble is you solve one hole by creating a new one and the Bengals don't have enough draft picks to fill all their holes. That second round pick then stops you filling a different hole. But Free agency will happen ebfore the draft and they will have oppertunities to fill holes there more so if not paying a WR to not play.
12-20-2019, 07:43 PM
(12-20-2019, 03:23 PM)WestCoastBengalsFan Wrote: Worst Case Scenario: (12-20-2019, 03:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: What if I gave you an alternative? (12-20-2019, 04:25 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: The trouble is you solve one hole by creating a new one and the Bengals don't have enough draft picks to fill all their holes. That second round pick then stops you filling a different hole. (12-20-2019, 04:46 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Correct but the intent is to 1) get a player in his prime (Littleton) vs someone who's been injured a lot the past few years and exiting his prime (AJ), and 2) going after a position in the draft with a really strong draft class vs one that doesn't really have a lot of great prospects (WR vs LB). (12-20-2019, 05:34 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: I can see the logic in that approach (that should also have been the strategy at the trade deadline) it's just I don't think re-signing Green precludes them from going after a player like Littleton as well. (12-20-2019, 05:47 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: But Free agency will happen before the draft and they will have opportunities to fill holes there more so if not paying a WR to not play. I think in the end Xeno nailed it, cannot pay big money for a guy who is always injured even if I love AJ Green. We can get a guy like Amari Cooper for big money who is young and a great Receiver in his own right if we want to do that. Getting Littleton and a decent O-lineman in FA along with Burrow and an early WR in the Draft is the way i'd go.
12-20-2019, 08:34 PM
I think worst case scenario is winning the last 2 games, missing out on Burrow, and management thinking things are figured out and keeping the roster the same.
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12-20-2019, 10:18 PM
(12-20-2019, 03:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Clearly, but that is worse really. Hasn't so far
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12-20-2019, 10:22 PM
(12-18-2019, 12:29 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: That's pretty much my worst case scenario. I hear ya, a guy like Riverboat Ron could put this team back on the map, if given the same influence and inputs that Marvin was given. But alas, as Bengal fans, we already know that our fate is "no changes". Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations -Frank Booth 1/9/23
12-20-2019, 10:48 PM
(12-20-2019, 10:18 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: Hasn't so far Well you’re cursed to be a Bengals fan so I’m not so sure lol
12-21-2019, 05:40 AM
(12-20-2019, 03:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: What if I gave you an alternative? I can get on board with this option too.
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12-21-2019, 08:02 AM
I think that you have to do what you can to keep Billings, Green, and Hopkins so long as it's reasonable.
I think that it's time to move on from Dalton, Taylor, and all of the Miami Dolphin glory days pet hire types. I've seen enough.
12-21-2019, 11:05 AM
(12-20-2019, 10:48 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well you’re cursed to be a Bengals fan so I’m not so sure lol True. But luckily ever other pro/college team I follow have won multiple championships - only 1 remains
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12-21-2019, 01:18 PM
(12-21-2019, 11:09 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The worst offseason scenario already happened last year. Haha. True. Couldn't have went much worse, could it?
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12-21-2019, 01:19 PM
I would say that news of Jonah's shoulder not recovering or him getting injured again this offseason would be pretty terrible too.
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12-21-2019, 01:31 PM
I think it's mandatory the fins win because..and you can take this to the bank, Cleveland is NOT going to do anything to ensure the bengals get the first pick in the draft. Anyone care to dispute this?
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12-22-2019, 03:23 AM
Worst offseason scenario in a nutshell is not having a coherent plan. Hobson has said that the plan was to build around AJ. That's a moronic plan, if still in place given his health of late.
What's the goal going into FA? DO nothing but sign marginal players and their own guys? Does the new staff now get an opportunity to build around what they've seen on the roster in 2019? Is the family still trying to conjure the glory of 2015, or are they acknowledging that a rebuild is underway? |
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