Ravens WR news

[BmorePat87]

Steve Smith has 4 broken ribs. With 10 days to rest, he may be in week 5.

Campanaro is out on the IR. This will make him 2 for 2 on seasons cut short from injuries. Seemed likely when he was drafted that he'd be an injury prone player who never achieved more than kick returner, #4 receiver status.

Ravens have traded for Chris Givens from the Rams to add some depth with Campanaro out.

[McC]

(10-03-2015, 01:11 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Steve Smith has 4 broken ribs. With 10 days to rest, he may be in week 5.

Campanaro is out on the IR. This will make him 2 for 2 on seasons cut short from injuries. Seemed likely when he was drafted that he'd be an injury prone player who never achieved more than kick returner, #4 receiver status.

Ravens have traded for Chris Givens from the Rams to add some depth with Campanaro out.

Ribs take longer than that to heal, don't they?

What about Perriman?  Is he done for the year?

Based on the game against us, you guys will have a very hard time scoring without Smith.

[BmorePat87]

(10-03-2015, 02:31 PM)McC Wrote: Ribs take longer than that to heal, don't they?

What about Perriman?  Is he done for the year?

Based on the game against us, you guys will have a very hard time scoring without Smith.

Yea, but what I am reading is suggesting he would play through part of the healing process. Just reporting what has been reported. Perriman... I have no clue. 

[West Union KennyG]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000547938/article/ravens-trade-for-rams-wide-receiver-chris-givens

According to above article, Ravens acquired Givens for a future 7th round pick.
Givens is called "a one trick downfield pony"

Also, according to that article, Perriman is out indefinitely after PCL surgery.  

Smith is a huge injury - can't imagine Ravens offense without him actually.  Givens sure isn't the answer.

[BFritz21]

(10-03-2015, 03:39 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, but what I am reading is suggesting he would play through part of the healing process. Just reporting what has been reported. Perriman... I have no clue. 

One broken rib is extremely painful while healing, so I'd imagine that four is horrible (depending on where and how bad, obviously).

It can hurt to move, breathe, sneeze, cough, yell, and anything else with even one broken rib, so he better hope that the doctor gives him some strong drugs if he hopes to be back in week 5, but I honestly don't even see that as a possibility.

[West Union KennyG]

(10-03-2015, 05:57 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: One broken rib is extremely painful while healing, so I'd imagine that four is horrible (depending on where and how bad, obviously).

It can hurt to move, breathe, sneeze, cough, yell, and anything else with even one broken rib, so he better hope that the doctor gives him some strong drugs if he hopes to be back in week 5, but I honestly don't even see that as a possibility.

If my memory serves me correctly, That year Vick had two broken ribs he was out 3 games.  
So, realistically, I'd think a Smith return by week 8 is optimistic.  We will see.

[West Union KennyG]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/03/ravens-call-steve-smith-week-to-week-with-a-back-injury/

Lol - Steve Smith, Sr is being called by the organization 'day-to-day,' which is exactly what they said about Perriman, and 2 months later...

[BmorePat87]

(10-03-2015, 05:56 PM)West Union KennyG Wrote: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000547938/article/ravens-trade-for-rams-wide-receiver-chris-givens

According to above article, Ravens acquired Givens for a future 7th round pick.
Givens is called "a one trick downfield pony"

Also, according to that article, Perriman is out indefinitely after PCL surgery.  

Smith is a huge injury - can't imagine Ravens offense without him actually.  Givens sure isn't the answer.

Yea, Givens is a replacement for Camp not Smith. As far as I know, the Ravens has said that Rapoport's report on Perriman was overstated, though I don't know if I expect him back this season. 

[West Union KennyG]

So The Ravens haven't been that upfront with information about this situation.  
Now we have this:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/03/harbaugh-ravens-have-ruled-out-steve-smith-for-week-five/

Basically, they have certainly ruled Smith, Sr out for week 5, and haven't said anything about ribs but are talking about back micro fractures.

[West Union KennyG]

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/bal-ravens-have-more-questions-at-wr-20151004-story.html

Quote: When the Ravens return to work early this week, they’ll be forced to adapt to changes at the wide receiver position.

Michael Campanaro, who seemed to be on his way to earning a more prominent role on offense, is now done for the season, placed on injured reserve with a back injury. Steve Smith Sr., the team’s leading receiver, is expected to miss Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns and possibly multiple weeks with microfractures in his back. Speedster Chris Givens was acquired Saturday from the St. Louis Rams for a 2018 seventh-round NFL draft pick.

The developments spur numerous questions for the Ravens, who are 1-3 and looking to get back in the thick of things in a wide-open AFC.

What do the changes mean for quarterback Joe Flacco?

That he will need to carry the offense. Smith was the team’s top playmaker and the only real accomplished receiver that the Ravens have.

Obviously, the Ravens are going to need their run game to perform as it did in the victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers last week. Obviously, they are going to need Kamar Aiken to shown more consistency, Marlon Brown to make more plays and Darren Waller to grow up fast.
Steve Smith Sr. has microfractures in back; Michael Campanaro on IR, Ravens acquire WR Chris Givens
Steve Smith Sr. has microfractures in back; Michael Campanaro on IR, Ravens acquire WR Chris Givens

But more than anything, they need Flacco to consistently play like one of the game’s top quarterbacks, to limit mistakes and to improve his accuracy and decision making.

It’s obvious that the Ravens are lacking playmakers and that’s not Flacco’s fault. But the game’s top quarterbacks raise the level of the personnel around them and the Ravens need Flacco to do that, now more than ever.

How long will Smith be sidelined?

The Ravens don’t even know the answer to that and you can expect them to be vague, especially with how the Breshad Perriman situation has played out.
With new addition, Ravens secondary stifles Steelers and renews hope for season
With new addition, Ravens secondary stifles Steelers and renews hope for season

For now, Ravens coach John Harbaugh has said only that Smith won’t play against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, but he’s confident that the 36-year-old will be fine long-term.

Ultimately, the issue is Smith’s pain tolerance, which typically is high. If Smith feels like he can withstand the pain and he’s not putting himself at more risk, he’ll play. There are things that he can do, including wearing extra padding, that might help. But ultimately, it’s going to be largely up to Smith on whether he feels ready to play.

What does Givens bring?

Speed. Over parts of four seasons with the Rams, Givens has averaged 16.3 yards per reception. He’s not known for his route running or his hands and his production has dropped off precipitously since he caught 42 passes for 698 yards and three touchdowns in his rookie season.

But the former Wake Forest standout has shown an ability to get behind a defense. The injuries to Campanaro and Smith certainly facilitated the trade, but it’s probably Perriman’s continued absence that made this deal necessary. Without the rookie, the Ravens haven’t had a guy with elite speed on the outside.

It’s obviously going to take Givens some time to learn the offense, but his speed will immediately be a welcome addition.

Who will return kicks?

Campanaro was the team’s primary kick returner and he recently had supplanted Smith as the primary punt returner, too. Now, he’s out and the Ravens likely aren’t going to put Smith at risk when he returns.

Cornerback Lardarius Webb has been used in fair-catch situations and he had success earlier in his career on punt returns, but as an important part of the secondary, it’s a big risk to put him back there.

Running backs Lorenzo Taliaferro and Buck Allen have returned kickoffs in practices and warm-ups. And Givens has that ability, averaging 22.9 yards per kickoff return in his career.

If the Ravens don’t feel like a combination of Webb, Givens and their two reserve running backs can handle it, they have the option of promoting Jeremy Ross, Asa Jackson or Terrence Magee from the practice squad.

Will they add another wide receiver in a trade?

It’s not out of the question and general manager Ozzie Newsome has already shown that he’s not afraid of making a deal and dipping into his pool of future draft picks in acquiring both Givens and cornerback Will Davis over the past couple of weeks.

But Newsome also is not known to panic and trade future assets for a short-term fix. And deals for a big difference-maker on the outside, such as the Chicago Bears’ Alshon Jeffery, would cost the Ravens assets.

With the Bears seemingly willing to trade any of their veterans, Jeffery's name is frequently mentioned in connection with the Ravens. However, he's dealing with a hamstring injury and hasn't played since Week 1. He's also a free agent after the year.

The Ravens will certainly monitor the market, but it seems more likely that their biggest wide receiver additions following the Givens trade will come with the return of Smith and Perriman from injuries.

[XenoMorph]

(10-03-2015, 02:31 PM)McC Wrote: Ribs take longer than that to heal, don't they?

What about Perriman?  Is he done for the year?

Based on the game against us, you guys will have a very hard time scoring without Smith.

He will probly wear a flak jacket under his pads to protect his ribs.. Some pro wrestlers have done that when proforming with broken ribs. If he plays.... which he probly will being this season is his swan song

[BmorePat87]

[Bmoreblitz]

He's ruled out for week 5. My guess is that they will try to attack using the running game mostly. Luckily that's the area the Browns are weakest at right now. But it makes you predictable.

[StLucieBengal]

Lol at the Ravens and WR's

[SunsetBengal]

Admire Smith for his courage, in wanting to return ASAP.

Lol @ his brain for thinking that he can be effective past the 1st hit, short of at least a month of recovery. Dude ain't getting any younger, and we take longer to heal as we age..

[StLucieBengal]

(10-05-2015, 07:20 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Admire Smith for his courage, in wanting to return ASAP.

Lol @ his brain for thinking that he can be effective past the 1st hit, short of at least a month of recovery.  Dude ain't getting any younger, and we take longer to heal as we age..

This is it for him, so he will leave to out there. His body will just break down faster if he rushed back. Plus this is bother him die to his slowed healing.