09-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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The Ja'Marr Chase Thread
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09-02-2021, 08:49 PM
(09-02-2021, 08:04 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: I think the moms already got their brand new cars... Did Chase drop by and drop his off? Damn, sorry...that wasn't very positive.
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09-02-2021, 09:05 PM
(09-02-2021, 08:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Did Chase drop by and drop his off? Damn, sorry...that wasn't very positive. That's okay Nately. It just slipped out. I'm sure you'll catch it next time.
09-02-2021, 09:18 PM
(09-02-2021, 09:05 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: That's okay Nately. It just slipped out. I'm sure you'll catch it next time. We've got to drop the Chase negativity. And while we are at it, we should just let opportunities for easy jokes about Sewell to blow right by us.
09-02-2021, 10:06 PM
(09-02-2021, 08:29 PM)Big_Ern Wrote: And jumping offsides, 12 men on the field and illegal procedures Ah yes, the other usual suspects. Oh, and the holding on 2nd and 4 after a run for a 1st down that turns it into 2nd and 14. (09-02-2021, 08:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Did Chase drop by and drop his off? Damn, sorry...that wasn't very positive. Not positive but well played Sir, well played indeed.
09-02-2021, 11:07 PM
(09-02-2021, 07:54 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Let's all just hope that Chase and Sewell both have fun and make their mothers proud. Good call, Andy. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
09-03-2021, 10:52 AM
(09-02-2021, 01:33 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Marvin always said it usually takes a WR three years to adjust to the league. Boyd took a couple, Higgins did it in one. Once again, I am sure Chase will be fine and will take defenses apart this year. Actually, for skill positions rookie starters drafted high, it's about 8 games now. What you see in the first half vs the second half of the season will likely be 2 different players and that momentum usually carries over into Year 2. High draft picks aren't being given the time they need to adjust like they used to. WR's used to break out in their 3rd year, but now, if they haven't broke out in year 2, they are labeled a "bust" and sadly some of our fans are doing that before a player even gets into a game that counts! I find all of this pre-season crap silly, like Burrow mental issues and Chase's drops. Let them play and let's see what we have once the games count. Burrow has been playing since he was a kid, once the games count, he will forget all about that leg and go right back to being Burrow. Same with Chase, once the juices start flowing, he will get it going. Right now, you have to understand he is learning to run routes perfectly and being consistently in the right spot at the same time every time so that Burrow can anticipate correctly. I'd rather he worry about those things now, than catching the dang ball, get that route running instinctive, we know he CAN catch. Sheesh
09-03-2021, 11:17 AM
(09-02-2021, 01:33 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Marvin always said it usually takes a WR three years to adjust to the league. Boyd took a couple, Higgins did it in one. Once again, I am sure Chase will be fine and will take defenses apart this year. (09-02-2021, 01:36 PM)jj22 Wrote: But did our last top 5 pick at wideout take 3 years? It's a difficult argument when you guys keep pointing to 2nd rounders. I don't know about three years, but, like ALL rookies, they usually don't set the league in fire their first season. There have been 83 WRS taken in the first round since 2000 and only 7 of them had 1000 yard seasons as rookies. But if you look at the list most of the good receivers were not total busts as rookies. Instead they had decent seasons (500-800 yds) and got better with experience. Bsed on the fact that we already have Higgins and Boyd I don't expect Chase to put up really big numbers his first season. AJ Green was a really good WR from day one, but he probably would not have had 1000 yards as a rookie if he was playing with guys like Higgins and Boyd instead of Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell.
09-03-2021, 11:26 AM
Would 500-800 yards be good enough for Chase? Put this thread to rest? Not sure about the 500 but close to 800 yards given like Fred said Higgins and Boyd should be sufficient. Asking for a Justin Jefferson or even Higgins rookie year numbers may not be realistic. I mean hopefully it isn't because it will mean Burrow is throwing it 40 time a game, and let's hope he isn't this year coming off of injury.
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09-03-2021, 12:29 PM
(09-03-2021, 11:26 AM)jj22 Wrote: Would 500-800 yards be good enough for Chase? Hard to say. If the passing game is efficient overall then I would say yes. But by "efficient" I do not mean putting up big yardage numbers just because we throw the ball a lot. Also need to look at Chases efficiency instead of just yardage. His catch percentage may be low if he is targeted mostly on deeper downfield routes, but if that is the case he needs a high yards per reception and some tds. I won't be satisfied he Chase gets just 700 yards on 100+ targets.
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09-04-2021, 02:09 AM
(09-03-2021, 11:26 AM)jj22 Wrote: Would 500-800 yards be good enough for Chase? Put this thread to rest? Not sure about the 500 but close to 800 yards given like Fred said Higgins and Boyd should be sufficient. Asking for a Justin Jefferson or even Higgins rookie year numbers may not be realistic. I mean hopefully it isn't because it will mean Burrow is throwing it 40 time a game, and let's hope he isn't this year coming off of injury. I heard all offseason that Chase was better than Jefferson, but now we have to taper expectations? I'm not saying we shouldn't be reasonable (we should). I'm just saying this goes to show that some weren't being reasonable a few months ago. That said, yeah I'd be fine with an 800 yard season mixed with some electric plays here and there.
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09-04-2021, 07:51 AM
(09-02-2021, 01:33 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Marvin always said it usually takes a WR three years to adjust to the league. Boyd took a couple, Higgins did it in one. Once again, I am sure Chase will be fine and will take defenses apart this year. Marvin likely said that back when WRs could actually be hit, going over the middle was dangerous, and CBs could be physical with them. Rules have changed. NFL has changed. ____________________________________________________________
09-04-2021, 05:22 PM
I have been thinking on this for awhile. There is definitely some effect from opting out his senior year. Both he and Sewell opted out....and both he and Sewell are having terrible preseasons. I can't think of any other drafted players who opted out, but if anyone else can, how did those players do in preseason? Im betting average to below average regardless of what round they were drafted in. I think it will simply take Chase longer to get back to where he was. Be patient with him.
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09-04-2021, 05:32 PM
(09-04-2021, 05:22 PM)Beaker Wrote: I have been thinking on this for awhile. There is definitely some effect from opting out his senior year. Both he and Sewell opted out....and both he and Sewell are having terrible preseasons. I can't think of any other drafted players who opted out, but if anyone else can, how did those players do in preseason? Im betting average to below average regardless of what round they were drafted in. I think it will simply take Chase longer to get back to where he was. Be patient with him. The T from Northwestern, Rashawn Slater, off the top of my head. Reports are he's doing pretty well for the Chargers. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
09-04-2021, 05:43 PM
(09-04-2021, 05:22 PM)Beaker Wrote: I have been thinking on this for awhile. There is definitely some effect from opting out his senior year. Both he and Sewell opted out....and both he and Sewell are having terrible preseasons. I can't think of any other drafted players who opted out, but if anyone else can, how did those players do in preseason? Im betting average to below average regardless of what round they were drafted in. I think it will simply take Chase longer to get back to where he was. Be patient with him.Wasn't there senior year. They were both 19 last time they played. Parsons and Slater also skipped 2020 and by all reports are having great preseasons. Chase will be fine. Sports Illustrated still thinks he'll lead the. Bengals in receiving with over 1300 yards. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/gm-report/jamarr-chase-projected-to-have-monster-season-according-to-latest-projections
09-04-2021, 06:55 PM
(09-04-2021, 05:32 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The T from Northwestern, Rashawn Slater, off the top of my head. Rousseau too... Right?
I'm gonna break every record they've got. I'm tellin' you right now. I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but it's goin' to get done.
- Ja'Marr Chase April 2021
09-07-2021, 09:47 AM
Quote:Ja'Marr Chase may have dropped the last four straight passes that have come his way in a game, but after Monday's practice that began the prep for Sunday's opener against the Vikings (1 p.m.-Cincinnati's Channel 19) at Paul Brown Stadium, he calmly caught every question the Cincy media fired at him as if they were one of the 5,000 tennis balls he's caught this summer. Do we start a new Chase thread? It's up to you guys. Someone else can start one, but for now. I'll bump one more time to add, I do applaud Chase's honesty and open approach to the discussion on his drops. He has the mindset to get it fixed. Bengals great T.J. Houshmandzadeh believes Ja'Marr Chase will succeed in his rookie season Quote:"Success doesn’t mean every single move they make is good" ~ Anonymous
09-07-2021, 04:24 PM
(09-07-2021, 09:47 AM)jj22 Wrote: Do we start a new Chase thread? It's up to you guys. Someone else can start one, but for now. I'll bump one more time to add, I do applaud Chase's honesty and open approach to the discussion on his drops. He has the mindset to get it fixed. Why is he looking for the strings to identify the top of the ball? That's what is probably messing him up
09-07-2021, 04:28 PM
09-07-2021, 05:30 PM
(09-07-2021, 04:28 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeah, I didn't get that either. I think he's saying the ball just kinda blends in with the background and he used the white stripes of the college ball to spot it. Now he has to use the laces, which are obviously much smaller and not on both sides of the ball. Essentially, it looks like we drafted Mr. Magoo to play WR. We are doomed if we don't get this guy some strong contacts.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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