PFF grades vs Green Bay

[fredtoast]

(10-12-2021, 12:59 PM)impactplaya Wrote: To help out Hendrickson. If Hubbard cant do any better rushing the QB then it might as well be
11 vs 10. 

Hubbard is on pace for 31 Pressures this year.

For comparison sake last year Trey Hendrickson had 33 and Myles Garrett had 32.

[impactplaya]

(10-12-2021, 01:16 PM)jj22 Wrote: If Chase didn't remind us that you can't trust your eyes in preseason, Hodges preseason performance should hammer that home. 

I thought we really had something there.

For whatever reason Wyatt Ray is active on gameday
But Hodges isnt. Ray has done nothing but take up space on Sundays.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Highest-graded #Bengals through five games (min. 125 snaps)

1️⃣ Joe Burrow, QB- 85.4
2️⃣ D.J. Reader, DI- 82.0
3️⃣ Joe Mixon, RB- 80.6
4️⃣ Ja’Marr Chase, WR- 79.9
5️⃣ Tyler Boyd, WR- 75.7 pic.twitter.com/po5DKCKuHl

— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) October 12, 2021

Reader seems to be flying under the radar for how good he’s playing.

[impactplaya]

(10-12-2021, 01:26 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Hubbard is on pace for 31 Pressures this year.

For comparison sake last year Trey Hendrickson had 33 and Myles Garrett had 32.

Hubbard is 92nd in the NFL in QB hits with 3. 
Hendrickson has 10. 
In the off season I was told Hubbard knows how to
Get to the QB. But he played with one arm last year
And the lack of talent around him was why he couldnt
Get to the QB. 
He is healthy and the talent has been upgraded.
Yet he only has 1.5 sacks in 5 games

He on pace for 5 sacks. 
The numbers suggest he cant finish in pursuit of the QB. He barely touched Rodgers in a game where we needed to bring Rodgers down

[*bfine32*]

(10-12-2021, 01:10 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That's what Ossai was for.
He just happens to have gotten injured.
Who should they go get midseason to fill in the gap?

He's already on the team: Cam Sample, he only saw 23% of the snaps on D last week, while Hubbard saw 83%

Maybe Zac's afraid Sam will pull a "Dunlap" if we play the young guy more. 

[*ochocincos*]

(10-12-2021, 05:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: He's already on the team: Cam Sample, he only saw 23% of the snaps on D last week, while Hubbard saw 83%

Maybe Zac's afraid Sam will pull a "Dunlap" if we play the young guy more. 

I guess I never really saw Sample as much of a threat as an edge pass rusher.
The most sacks he had in a season in college was 5.0.
I always thought his best fit was going to be 3T or base end then swing inside on passing downs.

[Essex Johnson]

Carman is just not moving the needle right now.. actually i believe he has went down PFF overall each start... ouch..

Hopkins has been a struggle also.. easier though to replace Carman a guard with less responsibility than Hopkins as a center if we need to.

[fredtoast]

(10-12-2021, 03:21 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Hubbard is 92nd in the NFL in QB hits with 3. 
Hendrickson has 10. 
In the off season I was told Hubbard knows how to
Get to the QB. But he played with one arm last year
And the lack of talent around him was why he couldnt
Get to the QB. 
He is healthy and the talent has been upgraded.
Yet he only has 1.5 sacks in 5 games

He on pace for 5 sacks. 
The numbers suggest he cant finish in pursuit of the QB. He barely touched Rodgers in a game where we needed to bring Rodgers down

I thought the people who tried to argue "sacks" was the only stat to measure a pass rusher got some education last year by the way NFL teams valued Carl Lawson.

[fredtoast]

(10-12-2021, 05:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: He's already on the team: Cam Sample, he only saw 23% of the snaps on D last week, while Hubbard saw 83%

Maybe Zac's afraid Sam will pull a "Dunlap" if we play the young guy more. 

Cam Sample 10.5 sacks against college players over last 3 seasons.
Sam Hubbard 16.5 sacks against NFL players over last 3 seasons and rated as one of the top DE's against the run. 

Just like Dunlap Hubbard would be entitled to be upset if he got benched for an inferior player.

[*SHRacerX*]

(10-12-2021, 07:03 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Logan wilson has to be one of the biggest disappointments especially with how good he has been all season.

He came within inches of a pick six.  Rogers just made an amazing throw.  I thought he was solid all game.  It was Pratt (I believe) that whiffed on their RB in the hole and gave up the huge run.