Collins Contract - Bengals Cap

[*Synric*]

(03-24-2022, 10:02 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well sure, Duke ofc is director of player personnel, and also deserves a ton of credit, but Katie Blackburn negotiates the contracts. And this one is unbelievably team friendly. Anyone that’s ever seen the Hard Knocks where she was dealing with Andre Smith’s agent knows how tough she is when it comes to getting the team the best deal possible.

There was an article about the Brown family a ccouple years ago that mentioned Paul Brown did alot of the contract negotiations I believe.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-24-2022, 10:02 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Well sure, Duke ofc is director of player personnel, and also deserves a ton of credit, but Katie Blackburn negotiates the contracts. And this one is unbelievably team friendly. Anyone that’s ever seen the Hard Knocks where she was dealing with Andre Smith’s agent knows how tough she is when it comes to getting the team the best deal possible.

Pretty sure she also knows all the math very well. This is her job.

I think Katie deserves more cred than she gets on the contracts....

Or maybe Paul Brown Junior as Synric says who we never seem to talk about.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-24-2022, 10:03 PM)Synric Wrote: There was an article about the Brown family a ccouple years ago that mentioned Paul Brown did alot of the contract negotiations I believe.

I wonder if she handles the bigger ones, and delegates a lot of the other ones to him (Stanley Morgan type deals).

[M.W.]

(03-24-2022, 06:33 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: The Burrow effect is real, La'el even said that is what put it over the top and made it a done deal.

Hanging out at Joe Brrr's house.

Burrow and AFC champs, good culture, LSU players - a wonderful situation.

[bengals1969]

(03-24-2022, 06:26 PM)casear2727 Wrote: 3 years for a 28-29 yr old is pretty standard for us. Just like Karraas.

All the guarantees in first two years right?

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

OTC has a cap hit of $4.16 mil, spitrac $4.66 mil. Not a huge deal. Maybe differ on when they count bonuses (roster?), or just a typo.

[casear2727]

(03-25-2022, 12:59 PM)bengals1969 Wrote: All the guarantees in first two years right?

Isnt that how we we always have done it?

[phil413]

We ever get an answer if he can opt out of his 3rd year?

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-25-2022, 08:21 PM)phil413 Wrote: We ever get an answer if he can opt out of his 3rd year?

We have him under contract through 2024.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-25-2022, 09:41 AM)M.W. Wrote: Burrow and AFC champs, good culture, LSU players - a wonderful situation.

Oh yeah. Sure wouldn't mind adding Justin Jefferson in a couple years too if we have to let Boyd go somewhere else.

Keep the LSU connection alive and kicking.

[WeezyBengal]

(03-26-2022, 02:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Oh yeah. Sure wouldn't mind adding Justin Jefferson in a couple years too if we have to let Boyd go somewhere else.

Keep the LSU connection alive and kicking.

If that happens you're going to have about 120 - 140 million tied up into 4 players. Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Jefferson. Ain't happening. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-26-2022, 02:36 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: If that happens you're going to have about 120 - 140 million tied up into 4 players. Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Jefferson. Ain't happening. 

Probably right. Just keep the OL intact and we can do without having the greatest weapons anyways.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-26-2022, 02:36 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: If that happens you're going to have about 120 - 140 million tied up into 4 players. Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Jefferson. Ain't happening. 

You wouldn’t keep Higgins if they could get Jefferson.

[Shake n Blake]

After seeing Collin's deal and who we added vs who we subtracted, it seems like we could still afford someone like Gilmore. If he's already been signed, apologies.

[Shake n Blake]

Man no wonder LSU dominated that year. If you just moved that team up to the NFL, they'd be one of the best teams in the league. Certainly on offense, anyway.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-26-2022, 11:54 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Man no wonder LSU dominated that year. If you just moved that team up to the NFL, they'd be one of the best teams in the league. Certainly on offense, anyway.

They had some dudes on defense, too. Most notably Stingley, but also some 1st and 2nd rounders like Chaisson, Queen, Delpit, etc.

[Soonerpeace]

https://twitter.com/andreperrotta13/status/1508962561403805710?s=21

In all, $9M tied to incentives & the one-time base salary escalator.

Since his incentives (both playtime and Pro Bowl) are considered NLTBE in 2022, those aren't counted against this season's Cap

So no change to Collins' previously reported 2022 Cap Hit = $4,166,666