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My football fandom started with watching the Browns of the late 50's on my parents' black and white TV. Jim Brown was the best that ever put on the pads. Maybe a flawed human (aren't we all?) but great off the field too, a voice for Black Americans during the Civil Rights era.
I didn't have the chance to log on yesterday, but I'm stunned this thread doesn't have more input than it does.
As far as I'm concerned, he was the greatest football player of all time. Hands down. He was a man amongst boys in a time when all 11 defenders were focused on stopping him, in extremely violent ways. And yet he persevered to a level of greatness that has never been equaled. Off the field, he was an even greater being.
The world needs more people like Jim Brown, and he will forever be missed.
(05-20-2023, 10:39 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: I didn't have the chance to log on yesterday, but I'm stunned this thread doesn't have more input than it does.
As far as I'm concerned, he was the greatest football player of all time. Hands down. He was a man amongst boys in a time when all 11 defenders were focused on stopping him, in extremely violent ways. And yet he persevered to a level of greatness that has never been equaled. Off the field, he was an even greater being.
The world needs more people like Jim Brown, and he will forever be missed.
Jim Brown was a legend on the football field and has a strong argument for being one of the greatest of all time. However...
I would stop short of saying he was a great person off the field and that we need more people like him. He had a horrific history of beating several women (and men) over the course of three decades, including multiple rape accusations.
Absolutely legendary football player and deserving of all praise coming towards his way. A deplorable man off the field.
(05-20-2023, 04:51 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Jim Brown was a legend on the football field and has a strong argument for being one of the greatest of all time. However...
I would stop short of saying he was a great person off the field and that we need more people like him. He had a horrific history of beating several women (and men) over the course of three decades, including multiple rape accusations.
Absolutely legendary football player and deserving of all praise coming towards his way. A deplorable man off the field.
Yeah he was one of the all time champs of beating the dog shit out of girls. He even threw one out of a second story window once. Also allegedly "violently raped" women at the Playboy mansion. These aren't exactly isolated incidents, either. It happened over and over, and the details were always pretty extreme.
Ray Rice was run out of the league for getting caught on camera punching a woman. Addison Russell hasn't stepped foot on a MLB diamond since he got busted for DV. Mike Tyson went to jail, and took decades to salvage what was left of his image.
Brown will be one of the last athletes to keep his legacy mostly intact while being a serial abuser of women.
If Browns fans celebrate Brown as a player, then they better damn well keep Joe Mixon's single offense with a stray allegation out of their mouths.
(05-21-2023, 11:12 AM)samhain Wrote: Yeah he was one of the all time champs of beating the dog shit out of girls. He even threw one out of a second story window once. Also allegedly "violently raped" women at the Playboy mansion. These aren't exactly isolated incidents, either. It happened over and over, and the details were always pretty extreme.
Ray Rice was run out of the league for getting caught on camera punching a woman. Addison Russell hasn't stepped foot on a MLB diamond since he got busted for DV. Mike Tyson went to jail, and took decades to salvage what was left of his image.
Brown will be one of the last athletes to keep his legacy mostly intact while being a serial abuser of women.
If Browns fans celebrate Brown as a player, then they better damn well keep Joe Mixon's single offense with a stray allegation out of their mouths.
From The Vault: Bengals have history of violence against women
Multiple arrests since 2000 preceded drafting of Joe Mixon
CINCINNATI -- The Bengals have built a reputation as a team that can’t win a playoff game and can’t keep its players out of jail. The facts support it.
You already know about the 26-year streak without a playoff victory and Marvin Lewis’ 0-7 record in the postseason. The Bengals' arrest record and history of violence against women are frustrating and troubling, too.
Those issues, and the team's history of giving second chances to troubled players, were thrust back into the news when the Bengals drafted Joe Mixon last Friday. A local organization, Women Helping Women, spoke out this week in concern for the message the Bengals send to the community by drafting a player who punched a woman in the face.
The Bengals' record includes:
Eight arrests involving reported attacks on women since 2000, according to media databases that track NFL player arrests.
A league-leading number of arrests and citations between 2000 and 2009.
A claim by a former player's abused wife that the Bengals advised her to call club officials -- not the police -- when her husband attacked her so the club could avoid bad publicity.
It also shows when top players were accused of attacking women, the Bengals kept them on the team. Lesser players were dismissed, but sometimes later rather than sooner.
In 2006, the Bengals drafted a player who had been accused of sexual assault five months earlier and allowed him to remain on the team for a year while he had two more arrests.
After the Bengals drafted Mixon last week, Lewis said the Oklahoma running back, who was 18 when he punched a 20-year-old woman and broke four bones in her face three years ago, deserved a second chance. The Bengals have a long history of giving second chances and more to players, going back to their first season in 1968. Many didn't work out. Adam Jones' legal troubles -- 10 arrests or citations since he came into the NFL (four with the Bengals) -- have been well documented.
The database NFLArrest.com shows 30 Bengals have been arrested or cited a total of 44 times since 2000 -- not counting Mixon or anyone else they drafted this year. That’s the third highest total of arrests/citations in the league. Between 2000 and 2009, when their reputation as jailbirds grew, the Bengals were tied for No. 1 with Minnesota (30 arrests or citations in the decade).
Eight of those Bengals cases involved attacks on women, according to the database. Mixon would make nine. His attack, caught on video, took place in a restaurant in Norman, Oklahoma in 2014.
The Bengals drafting Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon is inexcusable
By: WCPO Editorial Board
Posted at 11:26 AM, Apr 29, 2017
and last updated 11:43 AM, Apr 29, 2017
This time the Bengals have gone too far.
Over and over, the Bengals have drafted, signed and stood by players with troubled legal backgrounds or other concerns that make them less-than-stellar role models.
But the Bengals drafting Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon -- on top of the team's tacit support of Adam Jones -- is disgraceful...
When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less.
CINCINNATI -- The Bengals have built a reputation as a team that can’t win a playoff game and can’t keep its players out of jail. The facts support it.
You already know about the 26-year streak without a playoff victory and Marvin Lewis’ 0-7 record in the postseason. The Bengals' arrest record and history of violence against women are frustrating and troubling, too.
Those issues, and the team's history of giving second chances to troubled players, were thrust back into the news when the Bengals drafted Joe Mixon last Friday. A local organization, Women Helping Women, spoke out this week in concern for the message the Bengals send to the community by drafting a player who punched a woman in the face.
The Bengals' record includes:
Eight arrests involving reported attacks on women since 2000, according to media databases that track NFL player arrests.
A league-leading number of arrests and citations between 2000 and 2009.
A claim by a former player's abused wife that the Bengals advised her to call club officials -- not the police -- when her husband attacked her so the club could avoid bad publicity.
It also shows when top players were accused of attacking women, the Bengals kept them on the team. Lesser players were dismissed, but sometimes later rather than sooner.
In 2006, the Bengals drafted a player who had been accused of sexual assault five months earlier and allowed him to remain on the team for a year while he had two more arrests.
After the Bengals drafted Mixon last week, Lewis said the Oklahoma running back, who was 18 when he punched a 20-year-old woman and broke four bones in her face three years ago, deserved a second chance. The Bengals have a long history of giving second chances and more to players, going back to their first season in 1968. Many didn't work out. Adam Jones' legal troubles -- 10 arrests or citations since he came into the NFL (four with the Bengals) -- have been well documented.
The database NFLArrest.com shows 30 Bengals have been arrested or cited a total of 44 times since 2000 -- not counting Mixon or anyone else they drafted this year. That’s the third highest total of arrests/citations in the league. Between 2000 and 2009, when their reputation as jailbirds grew, the Bengals were tied for No. 1 with Minnesota (30 arrests or citations in the decade).
Eight of those Bengals cases involved attacks on women, according to the database. Mixon would make nine. His attack, caught on video, took place in a restaurant in Norman, Oklahoma in 2014.
The Bengals drafting Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon is inexcusable
By: WCPO Editorial Board
Posted at 11:26 AM, Apr 29, 2017
and last updated 11:43 AM, Apr 29, 2017
This time the Bengals have gone too far.
Over and over, the Bengals have drafted, signed and stood by players with troubled legal backgrounds or other concerns that make them less-than-stellar role models.
But the Bengals drafting Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon -- on top of the team's tacit support of Adam Jones -- is disgraceful...
We kept them on the team.
The Browns paid 300 million to get them from other teams. You guys actively seek these ******** out.
The current face of your franchise is a bigger abuser women that Ben ever dreamed of being, and the all-time best player you ever had literally threw a woman off of a balcony.
I hear OJ is still alive. If he's out of jail, maybe y'all could give him a job.
News flash..High octane professional athletes playing a very violent sport tends to attract people prone to violence. It's not exactly news that the sports industry lets fans in the stands get drunk and watch the violence. I kind of have my doubts that we're ever going to see the day when only good little boys and girls get to become professional athletes.
Far be it for me to suggest that if you're the biggest badest dude in the room you may become the dude who beats the crap out of everyone else in the room.. That's not exactly news.
In the immortal words of my old man, "Wait'll you get to be my age!"
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