RAS Beasts - 2024

[*ochocincos*]

Below are guys at each position who scored 9+ in overall RAS (relative athletic score - ras.football) this year.
I'm only going to list positions have big needs for going into FA/Draft, but feel free to check out the website for the rest.

TE:
- Theo Johnson - 9.99
- Tip Reiman - 9.93
- Ben Sinnott - 9.75
- Jared Wiley - 9.53
- Tanner McLachlan - 9.39

WR: (WAY TOO MANY TO LIST SO ONLY DOING TOP 10)
- Adonai Mitchell - 9.98
- Brian Thomas Jr - 9.97
- Xavier Legette - 9.92
- Rome Odunze - 9.91
- Cornelius Johnson - 9.89
- Johnny Wilson - 9.88
- Devontez Walker - 9.86
- Ricky Pearsall - 9.78
- Ryan Flournoy - 9.77
- Bub Means - 9.70

RB:
- Isaac Guerendo - 9.98
- Tyrone Tracy Jr - 9.87
- Jaylen Wright - 9.81
- Trey Benson - 9.77
- MarShawn Lloyd - 9.29
- Dylan Laube - 9.21

OT: (TOO MANY BUT DID TOP 11 SINCE BFINE LIKES SUAMATAIA)
- Joe Alt - 9.91
- Tylan Grable - 9.85
- Frank Crum - 9.82
- Patrick Paul - 9.80
- Taliese Fuaga - 9.71
- Tyler Guyton - 9.63
- Roger Rosengarten - 9.60
- Amarius Mims - 9.50
- Olu Fashanu - 9.44
- Troy Fautanu - 9.40
- Kingsley Suamataia - 9.35

DT:
- Braden Fiske - 9.88
- Ruke Orhorhoro - 9.87
- Marshawn Kneeland - 9.54
- Gabe Hall - 9.11
- Logan Lee - 9.08
- Byron Murphy II - 9.02

CB:
- Jarrian Jones - 9.86
- Quinyon Mitchell - 9.84
- Decamerion Richardson - 9.80
- Elijah Jones - 9.74
- Khyree Jackson - 9.70
- Max Melton - 9.68
- Nehemiah Pritchett - 9.41
- Andru Phillips - 9.30

FS:
- Ryan Watts - 9.84
- Cole Bishop - 9.81
- Dominique Hampton - 9.73
- Jaylon Carlies - 9.57
- Isaiah Johnson - 9.13

Any of these guys you feel better about or confirmed your stance on after seeing them perform athletic drills alongside their peers?

[Whatever]

Trey Benson running 4.39 was pretty big in my book. He's got bellcow size and is already a plus blocker. The 4.39 confirms the big play ability he showed on tape.

Johnny Wilson running 4.52 at his size is insane. Kid showed the willingness to work at TE at the Senior Bowl, as well. Definitely an intriguing prospect.

[pulses]

Love Pearsall he was near the top of all categories and can play inside and outside at a high level. I would not be mad with him in the 2nd/3rd. Has some of the best hands in the draft and knows HOW to get seperation and get OPEN. I like Cole Bishop the S from Utah as well he was impressive. Max Melton CB was another guy i was impressed with.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-04-2024, 06:53 PM)Whatever Wrote: Trey Benson running 4.39 was pretty big in my book.  He's got bellcow size and is already a plus blocker.  The 4.39 confirms the big play ability he showed on tape.

Johnny Wilson running 4.52 at his size is insane.  Kid showed the willingness to work at TE at the Senior Bowl, as well.  Definitely an intriguing prospect.

Yes, I like both Trey Benson and Johnny Wilson a ton. Didn't think Benson was going to run that fast of a forty as I thought of him as more
of a bellcow type back, to do that with his size is eye opening. But Johnny Wilson is like 6'6" or somethin', he just towered over Defenders.

The Seminoles have a lot of good players in this Draft but these two are my favorite and I also like Verse.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-04-2024, 07:22 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes, I like both Trey Benson and Johnny Wilson a ton. Didn't think Benson was going to run that fast of a forty as I thought of him as more
of a bellcow type back, to do that with his size is eye opening. But Johnny Wilson is like 6'6" or somethin', he just towered over Defenders.

The Seminoles have a lot of good players in this Draft but these two are my favorite and I also like Verse.

MarShawn Lloyd running a 4.46 at 220 lbs is also pretty good.
I liked what I saw of him on tape to take him on Day 3, and his sub-4.5 time confirms about the only thing I had concern with.

Benson I've liked for quite a long time.
Happy to see him run well.

Also I'm actually surprised by Johnny Wilson's 4.52 at 6'6", 231 lbs.
That height-weight-length-speed combo could be VERY desirable at TE for many teams.

[*bfine32*]

I was big on Adonai Mitchell before the draft and after the athletics portion of the combine, I was patting myself on the back. But then they required them to catch the ball during the drills...

[sandwedge]

How bad did Worthy suck at all the other drills? Guys breaks the record in the 40 and isn't in the top 10 RAS....

[pulses]

(03-04-2024, 11:35 PM)sandwedge Wrote: How bad did Worthy suck at all the other drills? Guys breaks the record in the 40 and isn't in the top 10 RAS....

He has a case of the dropsies.

[Whatever]

(03-04-2024, 11:35 PM)sandwedge Wrote: How bad did Worthy suck at all the other drills? Guys breaks the record in the 40 and isn't in the top 10 RAS....

Size measurements play into RAS.

[*Go Cards*]

Big fan of Isaac Guerendo and felt he would be a late round steal per only being the RB #2 for the Cards. This probably causes his stock to rise though.

Not flashy, but gets going north and south quickly without any wasted movements. He is tough and just gets the job done in a blue collar way.

[JoeyB2023]

(03-04-2024, 06:53 PM)Whatever Wrote: Trey Benson running 4.39 was pretty big in my book. He's got bellcow size and is already a plus blocker. The 4.39 confirms the big play ability he showed on tape.

Johnny Wilson running 4.52 at his size is insane. Kid showed the willingness to work at TE at the Senior Bowl, as well. Definitely an intriguing prospect.

Was curious about Johnny Wilson and is possibility to be an nfl tight end. I knew he didn’t have 4.3 speed. He’s Auden Tate all over again. And I remember the talk of Auden at tight end too.

[Goalpost]

Wonder where Nate Wiggins ranked. 6'1 CB running a 4.28.

[Whatever]

(03-05-2024, 08:48 AM)JoeyB2023 Wrote: Was curious about Johnny Wilson and is possibility to be an nfl tight end.  I knew he didn’t have 4.3 speed.  He’s Auden Tate all over again.  And I remember the talk of Auden at tight end too.

Wilson is a much better prospect than Tate, to be fair.  Tate was slow as molasses with a 4.67 40, but refused to play TE.  For another comparison, Higgins ran 4.59 at the Combine.  

I think Wilson will probably be used as a hybrid between an outside X WR and a move TE(similar to how Hudson was used last year).  I think that versatility and blocking opens things up to create a lot of mismatches.  

Ironically, I saw the other day that Tate had signed with a CFL team after spending the last couple of years on various Practice Squads. Kind of funny after his agent was crying in the media about the Bengals being unable to take advantage of his "unique talents" while he was here.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-05-2024, 08:48 AM)JoeyB2023 Wrote: Was curious about Johnny Wilson and is possibility to be an nfl tight end.  I knew he didn’t have 4.3 speed.  He’s Auden Tate all over again.  And I remember the talk of Auden at tight end too.

Uhh...you must ONLY be thinking of size comparison then, as the athleticism and speed are vastly different.

Wilson - 9.88 RAS
Tate - 1.81 RAS

Tate's athletic measurables:
31" vert (very poor)
9'4" broad (very poor)
4.68 40 (very poor)
1.64 10-yard split (very poor)
4.58 shuttle (very poor)
7.37 cone (very poor)

The ONLY things Tate had going for him were his size and hands.

Wilson's measurables:
4.52 40 time
1.55 10-yard split
37" vert
10'8" broad
4.11 shuttle

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(03-05-2024, 12:05 AM)pulses Wrote: He has a case of the dropsies.

That has 0 to do with RAS

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-04-2024, 07:45 PM)ochocincos Wrote: MarShawn Lloyd running a 4.46 at 220 lbs is also pretty good.
I liked what I saw of him on tape to take him on Day 3, and his sub-4.5 time confirms about the only thing I had concern with.

Benson I've liked for quite a long time.
Happy to see him run well.

Also I'm actually surprised by Johnny Wilson's 4.52 at 6'6", 231 lbs.
That height-weight-length-speed combo could be VERY desirable at TE for many teams.

Yeah, surprised Lloyd ran that fast. Tyrone Tracy is still my guy on Day 3 if he is around. Just jumps off the screen when watching him.

Would be cool to have another playmaker at RB who can catch the ball as Tracy was also a WR at Iowa.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-05-2024, 11:39 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Uhh...you must ONLY be thinking of size comparison then, as the athleticism and speed are vastly different.

Wilson - 9.88 RAS
Tate - 1.81 RAS

Tate's athletic measurables:
31" vert (very poor)
9'4" broad (very poor)
4.68 40 (very poor)
1.64 10-yard split (very poor)
4.58 shuttle (very poor)
7.37 cone (very poor)

The ONLY things Tate had going for him were his size and hands.

Wilson's measurables:
4.52 40 time
1.55 10-yard split
37" vert
10'8" broad
4.11 shuttle

Couldn't be more different RAS wise.