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Good work indeed, especially since most fans had written off the possibility of a 3rd due to the team signing OB Jr.
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Interesting that Brandon Beane brought up void years in contracts in reference to the comp pick formula. As for the Bengals I think the league forgot to factor in Jessie Bates All-Pro award.
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The key is we have to have a great draft. We have 10 picks including 2 third round picks. We don't have 10 roster spots open. I hope we go for quality versus quantity by moving up to get players who will not only push starters in 2024 but become starters in the future to offset vet cap salaries in the future.
If we do trade Tee, we have to hit in the draft at WR2, OT, CB and DT.
2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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Yes, good job pushing for that pick, could be huge in the big picture. I actually agree with Luvnit here about going quality over
quantity in this Draft as we are only a few players away in my opinion. If we can trade Tee for an early 2nd round pick and then
trade up to select quality players at OT, NT, WR, TE, RB etc we should do it this Draft. There are some damn good players at these
positions of need in this one.
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(03-26-2024, 02:30 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The key is we have to have a great draft. We have 10 picks including 2 third round picks. We don't have 10 roster spots open. I hope we go for quality versus quantity by moving up to get players who will not only push starters in 2024 but become starters in the future to offset vet cap salaries in the future.
If we do trade Tee, we have to hit in the draft at WR2, OT, CB and DT.
We easily have 10 spots open or filled with guys who can be easily upgraded.
Roster locks: Starters (22).
Burrow, Moss, Chase, Higgins, O. Brown, T. Brown, Cappa, Volson, Karras; Hendrickson, Hubbard, BJ Hill, Rankins, Wilson, Pratt, CTB, Turner, Hilton, Battle, Stone; McPherson, Adomitis.
Roster locks: Maybe starter/Reserves (15):
Browning, C. Brown, Irwin, Iosivas, C. Jones, Gesicki, D. Sample, Hudson, Ford; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai, ADG, Bell, D. Hill.
That's 37. 16 spots left.
Signed, but upgradeable/injured/iffy (13):
T. Williams, Evans, Carman, D. Smith, T. Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell, Harper, Ivey (inj), J. Davis, Anderson (inj); Robbins.
Take the 6 most likely out of that group (T. Williams, Carter, Ivey, Anderson, T. Hill, + 1 of Carman/D. Smith), and that leaves you 7 iffy (Evans, Tufele, Bell, Harper J. Davis, Robbins, + 1 of Carman D. Smith) and 10 open spots.
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(03-26-2024, 03:14 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We easily have 10 spots open or filled with guys who can be easily upgraded.
Roster locks: Starters (22).
Burrow, Moss, Chase, Higgins, O. Brown, T. Brown, Cappa, Volson, Karras; Hendrickson, Hubbard, BJ Hill, Rankins, Wilson, Pratt, CTB, Turner, Hilton, Battle, Stone; McPherson, Adomitis.
Roster locks: Maybe starter/Reserves (15):
Browning, C. Brown, Irwin, Iosivas, C. Jones, Gesicki, D. Sample, Hudson, Ford; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai, ADG, Bell, D. Hill.
That's 37. 16 spots left.
Signed, but upgradeable/injured/iffy (13):
T. Williams, Evans, Carman, D. Smith, T. Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell, Harper, Ivey (inj), J. Davis, Anderson (inj); Robbins.
Take the 6 most likely out of that group (T. Williams, Carter, Ivey, Anderson, T. Hill, + 1 of Carman/D. Smith), and that leaves you 7 iffy (Evans, Tufele, Bell, Harper J. Davis, Robbins, + 1 of Carman D. Smith) and 10 open spots.
You believe all 10 draft picks will make our roster including 2 sixth and 2 seventh round picks?
You may believe we are done in FA, I do not. I see us adding at least 2 FA's either before or after the draft.
Carman is our backup LT, so as much as he is hated in this forum, he has experience.
We have had trouble on hitting on our 1st and 2nd round picks lately, so not sure why you feel we can find 10 guys from this draft that will a part of our 53. Robbins is our punter, he is also our holder.
I am an optimist, but I don't see us replacing 10. top 53 roster spots with draft picks, that does not include all of the practice squad players you have dismissed. I would hope the PS players are being developed and are better than 4 picks we have in rounds 6 and 7.
2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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(03-26-2024, 02:30 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The key is we have to have a great draft. We have 10 picks including 2 third round picks. We don't have 10 roster spots open. I hope we go for quality versus quantity by moving up to get players who will not only push starters in 2024 but become starters in the future to offset vet cap salaries in the future.
If we do trade Tee, we have to hit in the draft at WR2, OT, CB and DT.
With the second third rounder essentially a 4th rounder I’d trade it to a team to improve our second round pick. I’d also pair Browning & Tee to move up at 1. We don’t need picks like Dax or anybody that can’t start this year.
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(03-26-2024, 03:40 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: You believe all 10 draft picks will make our roster including 2 sixth and 2 seventh round picks?
You may believe we are done in FA, I do not. I see us adding at least 2 FA's either before or after the draft.
Carman is our backup LT, so as much as he is hated in this forum, he has experience.
We have had trouble on hitting on our 1st and 2nd round picks lately, so not sure why you feel we can find 10 guys from this draft that will a part of our 53. Robbins is our punter, he is also our holder.
I am an optimist, but I don't see us replacing 10. top 53 roster spots with draft picks, that does not include all of the practice squad players you have dismissed. I would hope the PS players are being developed and are better than 4 picks we have in rounds 6 and 7.
If they take another RT early, I'd say Trent Brown is the new backup LT (starting RT unless Orlando is injured).
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(03-26-2024, 03:40 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: You believe all 10 draft picks will make our roster including 2 sixth and 2 seventh round picks?
You may believe we are done in FA, I do not. I see us adding at least 2 FA's either before or after the draft.
Carman is our backup LT, so as much as he is hated in this forum, he has experience.
We have had trouble on hitting on our 1st and 2nd round picks lately, so not sure why you feel we can find 10 guys from this draft that will a part of our 53. Robbins is our punter, he is also our holder.
I am an optimist, but I don't see us replacing 10. top 53 roster spots with draft picks, that does not include all of the practice squad players you have dismissed. I would hope the PS players are being developed and are better than 4 picks we have in rounds 6 and 7.
Yeah, we need about 5 maybe 6 quality players in this Draft and hopefully to develop some guys off the PS like Maxwell the 3-tech
who got injured last year and guy's like Ivey and such. All 10 picks won't make our roster and most definitely not all will be better
than what we currently have, this is unrealistic from Ike here who has been pretty negative about everything lately.
I actually liked Ike's idea about trading Tee for the Giants NT straight up and there are lots of WR's in this Draft that could help us
out immediately in filling Tee's spot. Tee is oft injured on top of the 22 mil or so he would take up if he stuck around and we don't
even know if he would play hard on the Tag.
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I think / hope if we pick a RT that Brown will still start. Hoping we can ease the pick in not because they aren’t developing but because Brown is playing up to his potential.
The rookie won’t sit the whole season given Browns injury history, and if they do because Brown played so well then that’s not all bad. Outside of not knowing what they have in him until 2025. We can cross that bridge when we get there if that means the RT spot was locked down this season.
We are still supposedly a good team so it’s not outrageous that our first round pick may not start. Especially at a position like the Oline that doesn’t allow for a player theoretically to rotate in for enough snaps that would justify a pick unless injury calls them into action.
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(03-27-2024, 08:51 PM)jj22 Wrote: I think / hope if we pick a RT that Brown will still start. Hoping we can ease the pick in not because they aren’t developing but because Brown is playing up to his potential.
The rookie won’t sit the whole season given Browns injury history, and if they do because Brown played so well then that’s not all bad. Outside of not knowing what they have in him until 2025. We can cross that bridge when we get there if that means the RT spot was locked down this season.
We are still supposedly a good team so it’s not outrageous that our first round pick may not start. Especially at a position like the Oline that doesn’t allow for a player theoretically to rotate in for enough snaps that would justify a pick unless injury calls them into action.
Agree, Trent Brown should really help out our rookie RT. He didn't even blink when asked if he had a problem with us drafting a RT in the
first round. I really liked his interview, no nonsense and he just wants to focus here and he knows he is really good when he is healthy and
is one of the best swing tackles in the NFL and knows that it helps his body to play on both sides.
Wish a lot of OL had this mentality instead of just sticking to what they know like Carman.
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