53 Man Post Draft Way Too Early Projection

[Memphis_Bengal]

(04-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 25 on O
2 QB: Burrow, Browning
4 RB: Moss, Brown, Trayveon, Evans
6 WR: Chase, Tee, Iosivas, Burton, Irwin, Jones
4 TE: Gesicki, Sample, All, McLachlan
4 OT: BROWN, BROWN, Mims, Carman
3 OG: Cappa, Volson, Ford
2 OC: Karras, Lee

25 on D
5 DT: Hill, Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson, Carter
5 DE: Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Sample, Johnson
5 LB: Wilson, Pratt, Davis-Gaither, Bachie, Heyward
6 CB: CTB, Hill, Turner, Hilton, Ivey, Newton
4 S: Stone, Battle, Bell, Anthony

3 Specialist
P McNamara
K McPherson
LS Adomitis

11 Rookies wow

I think Tanner Hudson makes it over Maclachlin and Mac to the PS. Don't think you start with two rookie TEs. Hudson was solid last year when he got his chances and rarely dropped a pass. 39 catches has a backup is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe All starts on pup.

[Housh]

(04-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 25 on O
2 QB: Burrow, Browning
4 RB: Moss, Brown, Trayveon, Evans
6 WR: Chase, Tee, Iosivas, Burton, Irwin, Jones
4 TE: Gesicki, Sample, All, McLachlan
4 OT: BROWN, BROWN, Mims, Carman
3 OG: Cappa, Volson, Ford
2 OC: Karras, Lee

25 on D
5 DT: Hill, Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson, Carter
5 DE: Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Sample, Johnson
5 LB: Wilson, Pratt, Davis-Gaither, Bachie, Heyward
6 CB: CTB, Hill, Turner, Hilton, Ivey, Newton
4 S: Stone, Battle, Bell, Anthony

3 Specialist
P McNamara
K McPherson
LS Adomitis

11 Rookies wow

I see 3 RBs on roster Evans on PS

I see 4 TEs cause one of these guys always gets injured.

Dont see 5 LB no matter how the preseason goes

If Tycen is healthy and is a ST ace he’s makin it no matter how many safeties we have

[kalibengal]

(04-28-2024, 06:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: nice breakdown I see Evans cut, they go with 3 or we will pick someone up, also Mclachlan goes to Practice Squad or All goes to PuP Hudson stays on roster

I can see Z Carter or C Sample cut in addition to Evans  
Out of  Carter and Sample, I would keep Sample just for his versatality 

[Whatever]

(04-28-2024, 07:34 PM)CJD Wrote: For context, the players from last year's roster that have already been or would be removed from the roster as part of this projection:

QB: AJ McCarron (released so he could play in another league)
RB: Joe Mixon (traded)
WR: Tyler Boyd (unsigned)
TE: Tanner Hudson, Mitchell Wilcox (signed elsewhere), Irv Smith Jr (Signed elsewhere)
OT: Jonah Williams (Signed elsewhere), D'Ante Smith
OG: Max Scharping (unsigned)
C: Trey Hill

DT: DJ Reader (signed elsewhere), Josh Tupou (unsigned), Jay Tufele
DE: Joseph Ossai
LB: Markus Bailey (unsigned), Devin Harper
CB: Jalen Davis, Chidobe Awuzie (signed elsewhere)
Safety: Nick Scott (cut), Tycen Anderson

ST: Brad Robbins (Good riddance)


Two changes I'd push back on would be cutting Joseph Ossai for Cedric Johnson and cutting Tycen Anderson for Daijahn Anthony. I am not one of these people that expect Ossai to break out this year, but I sincerely doubt they'd cut him for a 6th round rookie who is an athletic project. 

Anderson, it may come down to health. If he gets injured for a 3rd year in a row, they might just cut bait on him, but I find it more likely they'd keep him on the roster and stash Anthony on the PS for a year.

All over Hudson will depend on All's health. I could see him starting on the PUP and Hudson making the roster for the first half of the season before being demoted to the practice squad unless he's having a breakout year.

I'd also be surprised if they rolled with just 9 OL. They may roll with just 3 safeties since Hill could step in if needed due to injury to allow that 10th offensive lineman, which would be a backup guard. But that's nit picking the 51st or 52nd player on the roster haha.

Overall, this rookie class will have significantly upgraded this roster in almost every position.

Anthony might have the edge over Anderson.  Keep in mind that he played a good deal of both outside and slot CB in college.   For those back end of the roster guys, being able to fill in at multiple positions in a pinch is very valuable.

I could definitely see Ossai or Sample traded at the cut line.  If Sample doesn't get traded, I think Carter's spot on the 53 is in serious jeopardy.  He would be another trade candidate.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(04-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 25 on O
2 QB: Burrow, Browning
4 RB: Moss, Brown, Trayveon, Evans
6 WR: Chase, Tee, Iosivas, Burton, Irwin, Jones
4 TE: Gesicki, Sample, All, McLachlan
4 OT: BROWN, BROWN, Mims, Carman
3 OG: Cappa, Volson, Ford
2 OC: Karras, Lee

25 on D
5 DT: Hill, Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson, Carter
5 DE: Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Sample, Johnson
5 LB: Wilson, Pratt, Davis-Gaither, Bachie, Heyward
6 CB: CTB, Hill, Turner, Hilton, Ivey, Newton
4 S: Stone, Battle, Bell, Anthony

3 Specialist
P McNamara
K McPherson
LS Adomitis

11 Rookies wow

Very good breakdown. I will diverge a little, but not much: 

Offense: 24
QB (2): Burrow, Browning 
RB (3): Moss, C. Brown, T. Williams 
WR (6): Chase, Highins, Irwin; Burton, Iosivas, Jones
TE (4): D. Sample, Gesicki, McLachlan, Hudson
OT (4): O. Brown, T. Brown, Mims, Ford (OT/G)
OG (3): Cappa, Volson, FA Guard 
C (2): Karras, Lee

Defense: 26
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai 
DT (6): BJ Hill, Rankins; Jackson, Jenkins, Carter + FA Nose.
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt, ADG, Bachie
CB (6): CTB, Turner, Hilton, D. Hill, Newton, J. Davis
S (5): Battle, Stone, Bell, Anderson, Anthony

ST (3): 
PK: McPherson 
P: McNamara 
LS: Adomitis 

PUP (2): All (TE), Ivey (CB).

PS (16)
QB: Woodside 
RB: Evans (or an UDFA/late cut) 
WR: S. Jackson 
OT: Carman, Smith 
G: Kirkland
C: T. Hill 
DE: Gunter, Jackson 
DT: Tufele, Bell 
LB: Harper, Njongmeta 
CB: George 
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2 open: likely Hudson + a DB once All & Ivey are healthy.

[Bengal Dude]

I definitely see All starting the year on PUP. 

[NATI BENGALS]

(04-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 25 on O
2 QB: Burrow, Browning
4 RB: Moss, Brown, Trayveon, Evans
6 WR: Chase, Tee, Iosivas, Burton, Irwin, Jones
4 TE: Gesicki, Sample, All, McLachlan
4 OT: BROWN, BROWN, Mims, Carman
3 OG: Cappa, Volson, Ford
2 OC: Karras, Lee

25 on D
5 DT: Hill, Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson, Carter
5 DE: Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Sample, Johnson
5 LB: Wilson, Pratt, Davis-Gaither, Bachie, Heyward
6 CB: CTB, Hill, Turner, Hilton, Ivey, Newton
4 S: Stone, Battle, Bell, Anthony

3 Specialist
P McNamara
K McPherson
LS Adomitis

11 Rookies wow

I may have been a little too optimistic with All and Ivey. Those two  should probably start the year on pup. It would be nice to have them get back and compete for a spot in camp. But it would be stupid to make them rush back.

So that could mean Hudson and Ossai do make it.

[BoomerFan]

(04-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: 25 on O
2 QB: Burrow, Browning
4 RB: Moss, Brown, Trayveon, Evans
6 WR: Chase, Tee, Iosivas, Burton, Irwin, Jones
4 TE: Gesicki, Sample, All, McLachlan
4 OT: BROWN, BROWN, Mims, Carman
3 OG: Cappa, Volson, Ford
2 OC: Karras, Lee

25 on D
5 DT: Hill, Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson, Carter
5 DE: Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Sample, Johnson
5 LB: Wilson, Pratt, Davis-Gaither, Bachie, Heyward
6 CB: CTB, Hill, Turner, Hilton, Ivey, Newton
4 S: Stone, Battle, Bell, Anthony

3 Specialist
P McNamara
K McPherson
LS Adomitis

11 Rookies wow

I think they are going to try to move Trey Hill to Guard again. It might not stick but I would pencil him in there and take out Chris Evans at RB. If they did have space for a fourth RB it would be Elijah Collins (Oklahoma State) or Noah Cain (LSU), probably Collins whom they gave a (small) signing bonus to. However I don't see the roster space for them unless someone gets injured/starts on IR (or is it PUP now that creates a spot?).

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

I will amend my earlier effort and limit myself to guys we currently have. 

Though I do hope a FA G is coming.

Offense: 24
QB (2): Burrow, Browning 
RB (3): Moss, C. Brown, T. Williams 
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Burton; Irwin, Iosivas, Jones
TE (4): D. Sample, Gesicki, McLachlan, Hudson
OT (5): O. Brown, T. Brown, Mims, Carman (OT/G), Ford (OT/G)
OG (2): Cappa, Volson, (Ford, Carman).
C (2): Karras (C/G), Lee

Defense: 26
DE (6): Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai, Johnson
DT (5): BJ Hill, Rankins; M. Jackson, Jenkins, Carter.
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt, ADG, Bachie, Harper
CB (5): CTB, Turner, Hilton, D. Hill, Newton.
S (5): Battle, Stone, Bell, Anderson, Anthony

ST (3): 
PK: McPherson 
P: McNamara 
LS: Adomitis 

PUP (2): All (TE), Ivey (CB).

PS (14/16)
QB: Woodside 
RB: Evans
WR: S. Jackson, Lassiter
OT: Smith 
G: Kirkland
C: T. Hill 
DE: Gunter
DT: Tufele, Bell, Maxwell
LB: Heyward, Njongmeta 
CB: J.Davis, George 
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2 open: likely Hudson + a S once All & Ivey are healthy.

[schroomytunes]

I think they need to somehow sign a veteran FA guard to come on a 1 year contract, just to solidify the backup positions: some guys I like are:

1) Greg Van Roten (34) - still plays at a decent level.

2) Mason Cole (28)- average backup at the center position

- i wouldnt mind a training camp trade either to land a backup Guard/Center if it upgrades our IOL depth.

[*ochocincos*]

QB (2): Burrow, Browning
RB (4): ^Moss, Brown, Williams, Evans
TE (4): ^Gesicki, Sample, Hudson, *McLachlan (*All to PUP/IR)
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, *Burton, Jones, Iosivas, Irwin
OT (4): OBJ, ^TB, *Mims, Carman
OG (3): Volson, Cappa, Ford
C (2): Karras, *Lee

DE (6): Hendrickson, Hubbard, Murphy, Ossai, Sample, *Johnson
DT (5): Hill, Rankins, *Jenkins, *Jackson, Carter
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt, ADG, Bachie
S (4): ^Stone, ^Bell, Battle, Anderson
CB (6): CTB, Turner, Hilton, Hill, *Newton, Davis (Ivey to PUP/IR, would replace Davis once back)

K (1): McPherson
P (1): *McNamara
LS (1): Adomitis

^ = free agent
* = draft pick

The spots I was most torn on:
- Lee beating out Trey Hill for backup C. I think Lee gives the athletic upside that Hill doesn't have. And we've seen enough of Hill after 3 years to know what he can and cannot do.
- I *think* that in order to keep all the TEs, they'll put All on PUP or IR while he continues to recover from a torn ACL. I think this is more likely than only going 3 RBs and 5 TEs.
- I am thinking the coaches will prefer to actually go with an 11th DL over a 5th LB, as they would be more likely to lose Johnson on the PS than Heyward or Harper. If they end up ever needing a LB due to injury, they can pull up one of the LBs from the PS. Johnson will be in a good spot as a weekly inactive his rookie year before being officially bumped into the rotation next year once Ossai and/or Sample departs in FA.

[Bengalstripes9]

Ossai over Carter.

A guard over a 4th RB.

1 more corner, 1 less LB