(11-02-2024, 02:03 AM)jj22 Wrote: I just want to highlight how you ignored all the great “clutch” (by the definition folks established in this thread) defensive plays throughout the game because they couldn’t get the job done when we needed them to the most.
How is this any different from my Burrow clutch argument where y’all demanded me take into consideration his “clutch” play in a loss given his stats and not the inability to get a first down to close out a game or get into FG range to win it in a final drive.
These threads just never age well for folks.
I’m surprised it’s still getting bumped given we haven’t had a game winning drive or any big win to add substance to the clutch debate.
So you blame the defense for that loss while not blaming Burrow for the losses…. When ultimately he wasn’t able to pick up a first down or lead a game winning drive thus “ blowing” it.
By your reasoning for placing blame.
Why after an overall great game don’t you consider the defense having played “clutch” vs. KC? By the standards set by this thread they did. And if folks say they didn’t then the argument has crumbled.
This is something i thought of while doing this, so let's be more critical and break it down to--how many times did Burrow have the ball in his hands with a chance to make plays to extend a lead or win the game--and how many times did we have the lead or were tied and the defense gave up a Game Winning Drive. 'No excuses given--get it done or don't'.
2020
LAC - threw TD pass @0:07. Called back on OPI.
CLE - threw TD pass @0:43. Still down by 5 at that point.
IND - threw INT to seal the loss.
CLE - threw TD to take lead @1:06 to take lead. Defense surrendered GWD @0:11.
1 failure to extend lead beyond one score or win game (IND).
1 defense failed to prevent GWD (2nd CLE game).
2021
CHI - threw back to back TDs to get within 3. Defense couldn't get stop on CHI final drive to end game.
GBP - missed GWFG @0:21. Threw INT in OT. Missed GWFG in OT.
NYJ - threw INT w/lead, jets took the lead @3:45. Failed to do anything on last drive.
SF - threw TD to tie at end of regulation. drove to FG in OT to take lead before defense gives up GWD.
LAR - failed to extend lead in 4th on multiple drives. Failed to get in range or take lead on last drive.
4 failure to extend lead beyond one score or win game (GBP, NYJ, SF, LAR)
1 defense failed to prevent GWD (SF in OT).
2022
PIT - threw TD pass to tie at the end of regulation. XP blocked. Missed GWFG in OT.
DAL - threw TD and 2pt conv to tie game @3:45. Defense gives up GWD.
BALT - scores go ahead TD @1:56. Defense gives up GWD.
KC - fails to drive team to GWD. Defense gives up GWD.
1 failure to extend lead beyond one score or win game (KC).
3 defense fails to prevent GWD (DAL, BALT, KC).
2023
BALT - threw TD pass @3:28. Still down by 3 at that point. Ravens run out clock.
HOU - Boyd drops TD pass @1:38. FG ties. Defense gives up GWD.
0 failures to extend lead beyond one score or win game.
1 defense fails to prevent GWD (HOU).
2024
NE - failed to do anything on last drive.
KC - failed to extend lead at end of game. Defense gives up GWD
WASH - TD drive @0:40. Still down by 5 at this point. Failed on sides kick.
BALT - throws INT and ravens tie game @1:36. Missed GWFG in OT. Defense gives up GWD.
3 failures to extend lead beyond one score or win game (NE, KC, BALT).
2 defense fails to prevent GWD (KC, BALT).
Burrow failures = 9
Defense failures = 8
Still down, other team runs out clock = 4
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