Coaching...or Talent?

[Whatever]

(11-09-2024, 12:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When the team was historically bad and underperformed w/ CP9 I attributed it to the ownership not treating the players as professionals with their amenities, travel, and facilities. This was compounded by a lack of GM and understaffed scouting department.

Marvin came along and helped w/ the FO stuff as far as player selection/management. He was able to draft fairly well, yet got little help via FA or with the facilities.

Zac entered and the FO made a 180. We started dabbling more in FA and upgrading facilities, but now drafting is suspect.

We're almost "there" as mad as folks are currently because we have a losing record, we have one of the best teams in the NFL, but we cannot maintain it because we cannot draft for shit. KC can part w/ big $ players because they can replace them through the draft. Our only option is to replace them w/ cheaper FAs and crappy draft picks.

So the answer is currently talent, but it's because of the FO

One of the issues plaguing is in recent years is that with the current draft setup, the coaching staff is involved in a lot of the scouting.  With the consistently poor return on investment from premium draft capital spent on the defense, that's more of an indicator that the defensive staff needs overhauled.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Coaching + terrible FO moves.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-09-2024, 12:03 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Morning ramblings from a mad man pic.twitter.com/3LFl0gjiPD

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) November 8, 2024

He sums it up perfectly here.

Like I said.... turning chicken shit into chicken salad. Vince Lombardi ain't coming back to life any time soon. Why can't these nepotistic MORONS get it through their THICK skulls that they just need to expand the personnel department? Why? Thirty three ***** years of this bullshit and you're still doing things this way. It's absolutely unbelievable.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-10-2024, 10:07 PM)TheFan Wrote: Do you think it's possible they just one of the best HCs and DCs in the league? 

Yes, and a top notch front office/personnel department. What would you say the Brown family is in that regard? 

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-08-2024, 08:25 PM)J24 Wrote: It's more fire the Blackburns than Tobin.

While I agree, they h'ain't firing themselves...

(11-08-2024, 09:47 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: This is where I'm at. 

No way Duke didn't want to keep Jessie Bates. It's one of his best draft picks ever. The extension was on the table. It wasn't good enough. Same thing with Tee. 

That falls on the Blackburn's.

Our inability to draft recently? That's on Tobin. 

A head has to roll for this....and I'm sure you're correct about Bates...and maybe Higgins. His drafts have been terrible in the first round for a decade. That's inexcusable. If he's being overruled on draft day by the chowder head Browns, then he needs to pack it in, and drop truth bombs on his way out.