Drones over NY & NJ

[coachmcneil71]

I reached out to a good friend of mine that recently retired a full bird Colonel from the Space Force, and he confirmed that it is our Space Force. I didn't ask for specifics as I rarely do in our military conversations, and he probably couldn't answer certain questions anyways. On this. he gave me an immediate yes.

Him and his wife were stationed at Eglin , but moved out to Colorado where the main SF base is located after he received his promotion and orders.

Somethings up though, just not sure what yet. Some kind of exercise or operation.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(12-16-2024, 04:43 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I reached out to a good friend of mine that recently retired a full bird Colonel from the Space Force, and he confirmed that it is our Space Force. I didn't ask for specifics as I rarely do in our military conversations, and he probably couldn't answer certain questions anyways. On this. he gave me an immediate yes.

Somethings up though, just not sure what yet. Some kind of exercise or operation.

Someone suggested they military drones and were being used for to search for something you would not want to make known is lost in those heavily populated areas.

Another suggested that as they were only being seen at night, they we looking for something more easily visible during the night.

I have a tough time seeing them as Space Force, as they would use completely different propulsion in space, unless you are suggesting they are for searching out other planets and/or moons?

Regardless, they are the source of tons of speculation.

[coachmcneil71]

(12-16-2024, 04:52 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Someone suggested they military drones and were being used for to search for something you would not want to make known is lost in those heavily populated areas.

Another suggested that as they were only being seen at night, they we looking for something more easily visible during the night.

I have a tough time seeing them as Space Force, as they would use completely different propulsion in space, unless you are suggesting they are for searching out other planets and/or moons?

Regardless, they are the source of tons of speculation.

He did tell me that they have been doing this for quite some time, several years. The question is why are they suddenly making themselves so obvious?  

We have had a few conversations over the years about actual outer space and the weaponization of the atmosphere.  My friend is quite legit and has great knowledge on the SF. His immediate yes is gospel as far as I am concerned. 

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(12-16-2024, 05:40 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: He did tell me that they have been doing this for quite some time, several years. The question is why are they suddenly making themselves so obvious?  

We have had a few conversations over the years about actual outer space and the weaponization of the atmosphere.  My friend is quite legit and has great knowledge on the SF. His immediate yes is gospel as far as I am concerned. 

I am not arguing his legitimacy as a source, just noting other positions and reasons as to why the "drones" may be out there without making it political fodder.

Is there a better way to look for a highly radioactive materials without inducing mass panic?

But again the question arises, why only at night, and why the running lights, which make them easier to see?

[coachmcneil71]

(12-16-2024, 05:59 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I am not arguing his legitimacy as a source, just noting other positions and reasons as to why the "drones" may be out there without making it political fodder.

Is there a better way to look for a highly radioactive materials without inducing mass panic?

But again the question arises, why only at night, and why the running lights, which make them easier to see?

I understood your point and it's a valid one! I didn't take it as you trying to discredit my buddy. I was just reasserting that his word is solid from my perspective. Over the years he's given me little pieces of info on some of the things going on up in orbit as well. Like I said, somethings up. I imagine we'll all soon find out. 

He didn't seem overly concerned, so that's sort of comforting. He's a straight shooting Cornhusker. 

[NATI BENGALS]

So The Men in Black kind of predicted the future? Space force is out searching for the evil aliens they lost?

[HarleyDog]

(12-16-2024, 04:43 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I reached out to a good friend of mine that recently retired a full bird Colonel from the Space Force, and he confirmed that it is our Space Force. I didn't ask for specifics as I rarely do in our military conversations, and he probably couldn't answer certain questions anyways. On this. he gave me an immediate yes.

Him and his wife were stationed at Eglin , but moved out to Colorado where the main SF base is located after he received his promotion and orders.

Somethings up though, just not sure what yet. Some kind of exercise or operation.

Ok. So, I'm not denying the possibility of what you are saying as being true, but I have questions.

If your friend is retired, how would he know for sure, to answer so quickly to convince you?
If the military knows what's going on, why did Wright Patterson close its airspace over the weekend?
Why are there several leaders throughout our branches of government demanding answers? 
Why would these drones go dark and risk downing an airplane or airliner if our military was the culprit.

I would think there's no way drones could be flying around without the military knowing where they came from and where they went, unless the stealth technology is beyond our capabilities. Do they know or don't know? I think there's a possibility that we don't know. 

I think, right now, we have a very lame military that's underfunded and woke. DEI has destroyed many important sectors of government which need the most qualified minds on the planet in those positions. I fear we don't have that right now. 

I will say, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that I believe these are aliens.  But I do think it's a possibility of seeking out a dirty bomb, looking for traces of radiation. I also believe you can't trust the media, so we're not going to get our answers there. These statements are not my opinion per se, but only questions I concern myself with.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

I keep seeing references to Project Blue Beam, which is essentially the plot of the Watchmen comic if you've never read it.

[xxlt]

Not to be a poopy pants, but isn't the Space Force like the new I-75 bridge over the Ohio at the 'nati? Funding approved but no boots on the ground? Or Mars? Or anywhere in the final frontier? How does one put boots on the ground is space...?

I thought it was some capitalist's wet dream to find a new way to suck the gubmint teat (looking at you Musk et al military contractors) but a wet dream we still could wake up from and spend the money on, I dunno, helping homeless veterans or building neighborhood schools and paying the people who staff them better, or bridges and other infrastructures. Nah, lets build an ultasonic fart blaster so we can stink out aliens who are out of phaser range. Go Space Farce!

[coachmcneil71]

(12-16-2024, 07:38 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Ok. So, I'm not denying the possibility of what you are saying as being true, but I have questions.

If your friend is retired, how would he know for sure, to answer so quickly to convince you?
If the military knows what's going on, why did Wright Patterson close its airspace over the weekend?
Why are there several leaders throughout our branches of government demanding answers? 
Why would these drones go dark and risk downing an airplane or airliner if our military was the culprit.

I would think there's no way drones could be flying around without the military knowing where they came from and where they went, unless the stealth technology is beyond our capabilities. Do they know or don't know? I think there's a possibility that we don't know. 

I think, right now, we have a very lame military that's underfunded and woke. DEI has destroyed many important sectors of government which need the most qualified minds on the planet in those positions. I fear we don't have that right now. 

I will say, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that I believe these are aliens.  But I do think it's a possibility of seeking out a dirty bomb, looking for traces of radiation. I also believe you can't trust the media, so we're not going to get our answers there. These statements are not my opinion per se, but only questions I concern myself with.

Keith and Lori still live in the house that they bought just off base. The vast majority of his friends are still people that are in the service. Dude had been in for like 26 years, or something close to that. He knows what's shaking. He only recently retired. I think it was this past spring. He's informed.

800,000 plus "registered" drones in this country. I'm assuming that every Tom ,Dick, and Harry is out there flying their own drones around trying to see if they can figure out what's up. Some of the drones being operated by the amateur owners are probably possibly dangerous to low flying aircraft. Hence, having to shut down air space or probably even more logical is that Wright Pat is in on it and had their reasons.

No offense, but the words you chose to use reveal your mindset. England currently has about 75,000 active military, but sure, the US military is woke, understaffed and underfunded.   

 I live right between Eglin AFB and Tyndall AFB. Hurlburt Field and Pensacola NAS are all in my area code as well. You're certainly allowed to have your opinion, but it is a very misinformed one. 

The ground and houses shake here on a fairly regular bases from the military continuously testing munitions on Eglin. The MOAB was tested on Eglin. Our military is very active and present here. I can watch F22s, F35s, F15s, F16s, F18s, C130s, Black Hawks, Apache's, and Ospreys on any given day.  You may want to look up the bases that I mentioned. It may give you some idea of the historical importance of all of the ones that I mentioned. The military is very strong here in the southeast part of our country. 

[coachmcneil71]

(12-16-2024, 08:52 PM)xxlt Wrote: Not to be a poopy pants, but isn't the Space Force like the new I-75 bridge over the Ohio at the 'nati? Funding approved but no boots on the ground? Or Mars? Or anywhere in the final frontier? How does one put boots on the ground is space...?

I thought it was some capitalist's wet dream to find a new way to suck the gubmint teat (looking at you Musk et al military contractors) but a wet dream we still could wake up from and spend the money on, I dunno, helping homeless veterans or building neighborhood schools and paying the people who staff them better, or bridges and other infrastructures. Nah, lets build an ultasonic fart blaster so we can stink out aliens who are out of phaser range. Go Space Farce!

It's a real thing. The Russians, Chinese, and United States have been playing chess with satellites for quite a while now. India has recently joined the chess match.  

Russia just recently launched one into orbit that is the farther out than all of the rest in orbit. They know why the Russians done it that way. I think they launched it in October. Anyways, now they'll try to figure out a way to counter that move if they haven't already. My guess is that they are way ahead on this one. Those folks are pretty darn intelligent. 

[HarleyDog]

(12-16-2024, 10:09 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Keith and Lori still live in the house that they bought just off base. The vast majority of his friends are still people that are in the service. Dude had been in for like 26 years, or something close to that. He knows what's shaking. He only recently retired. I think it was this past spring. He's informed.

800,000 plus "registered" drones in this country. I'm assuming that every Tom ,Dick, and Harry is out there flying their own drones around trying to see if they can figure out what's up. Some of the drones being operated by the amateur owners are probably possibly dangerous to low flying aircraft. Hence, having to shut down air space or probably even more logical is that Wright Pat is in on it and had their reasons.

No offense, but the words you chose to use reveal your mindset. England currently has about 75,000 active military, but sure, the US military is woke, understaffed and underfunded.   

 I live right between Eglin AFB and Tyndall AFB. Hurlburt Field and Pensacola NAS are all in my area code as well. You're certainly allowed to have your opinion, but it is a very misinformed one. 

The ground and houses shake here on a fairly regular bases from the military continuously testing munitions on Eglin. The MOAB was tested on Eglin. Our military is very active and present here. I can watch F22s, F35s, F15s, F16s, F18s, C130s, Black Hawks, Apache's, and Ospreys on any given day.  You may want to look up the bases that I mentioned. It may give you some idea of the historical importance of all of the ones that I mentioned. The military is very strong here in the southeast part of our country. 

This was released from the DoD yesterday: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4005839/pentagon-press-secretary-maj-gen-pat-ryder-holds-an-off-camera-on-the-record-pr/

Q:  Thank you. Thanks for that long remark. More questions on the drones though. At this point has the US fully determined that they are not military drones, none that have been reported?

PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY MAJOR GENERAL RYDER:  To my knowledge, there are no military operations that are — these are not military drones.

[coachmcneil71]

First off, you're supposed to be a Mod on here, not a dick-tater! So, you know what you can do with your capital letters. Secondly, Anti-Maurice isn't Tweeting about it every hour on the hour like a teenage girl, so he obviously already knows what's going on as well. Otherwise, he would be making false claims and sewing seeds of discord.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

I heard the Chinese spy balloon theory today.

The theory being the drones are loaded with the same info gathering tech as the balloon, so the government can determine how much data they may have captured and were able to send back. Plus info gathering on its own citizens is always a bonus. Also allowing them to judge the efficacy of using them to gather data from adversaries.

Maybe the drones are too expensive to try out on cartels, so they have to try the drones out on their own populace who will not shoot them down?

[xxlt]

(12-17-2024, 06:55 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I heard the Chinese spy balloon theory today.

The theory being the drones are loaded with the same info gathering tech as the balloon, so the government can determine how much data they may have captured and were able to send back. Plus info gathering on its own citizens is always a bonus. Also allowing them to judge the efficacy of using them to gather data from adversaries.

Maybe the drones are too expensive to try out on cartels, so they have to try the drones out on their own populace who will not shoot them down?

Since when do Americans not love shooting shit? I mean sure, they prefer shooting each other and ideally in a church or school, but I am betting drone shooting rivals porn surfing and deer hunting in popularity. Drones is always in season and no limit from that pesky game warden.