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Peter Schrager Most Surprising Losses
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On Good Morning Football, Peter Schrager listed our loss to the Patriots in week 1 as the most confusing games of the season.

He explains how it made no sense to him.

It starts at about 3:47, and he says how we'd be in the playoffs.

He says how big of a joke it is that we lost to a Mayo-coached team with Jacoby Brisset at quarterback, who's now starring in insurance commercials.

Sucks because, if Hudson doesn't fumble going in for the touchdown, we win that game.

Who knows because the rest of the season obviously doesn't go the same way, but it could also have gone better.

If all things were equal, that fumble cost us our season.

(There's a link where it says where it is in the video but it's tough to see on my computer.)
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KC 4th and 16 was another one
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The NE loss is the only loss of our season that wasn't the Defense's "fault".
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(01-07-2025, 07:06 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: that fumble cost us our season.

Being woefully unprepared to start the season (again) cost us our season. Turns out continuing to start almost every season 0-2 (0-3 this year, and 1-4) makes things much harder on you and that's not just a Hudson problem.

Being shit on defense (again) cost us our season. Turns out having a scoring defense in the 20s isn't exactly beneficial to being a playoff team. We played 9 games against playoff teams and they averaged 32.9 points per game against us and we were 2-7 (it took us 384 days to get a win over a winning team's starters from our last one).

Trying to distill Hudson's fumble in week 1 as "costing us" our season is just a gross simplification that ignores everything else to hyper-focus in on a single play, which is something that no actually good team would ever do. If your season ends because a fumble in the 2nd quarter of Week 1, you never stood a chance and it would have just been something else.
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Can’t just blame that one game on missing the post season. What about the Ravens game? Punter/holder bobbles the snap and MCPherson misses it. Costs them another game. Pats loss was the biggest “should have won” game of the season but the Ravens loss should have been a win. Led by 10 multiple times in that game…
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(01-07-2025, 07:06 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: that fumble cost us our season.

I'm not a "pin the tail on the donkey" type of guy when it comes to earnest mistakes in the heat of a game. Nobody knows exactly what was going through Hudson's mind at that moment in time besides him. I do however like to pin the blame on piss poor tackling technique that was an issue all season long on the guy who appropriately lost his job over it. (or at least I'm hoping that was the reason).
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(01-07-2025, 07:41 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: Can’t just blame that one game on missing the post season.  What about the Ravens game?  Punter/holder bobbles the snap and MCPherson misses it. Costs them another game.  Pats loss was the biggest “should have won” game of the season but the Ravens loss should have been a win.  Led by 10 multiple times in that game…

(01-07-2025, 07:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm not a "pin the tail on the donkey" type of guy when it comes to earnest mistakes in the heat of a game. Nobody knows exactly what was going through Hudson's mind at that moment in time besides him. I do however like to pin the blame on piss poor tackling technique that was an issue all season long on the guy who appropriately lost his job over it. (or at least I'm hoping that was the reason).

Yeah, it was an overreaction by me.

Multiple plays cost us the season but, most importantly, like Sunset mentioned, none of those matter if we could play any defense.

So many missed tackles and blown plays in the secondary.
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(01-07-2025, 07:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The NE loss is the only loss of our season that wasn't the Defense's "fault".

McPherson probably deserves most of the blame for the Chargers loss.
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(01-07-2025, 07:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm not a "pin the tail on the donkey" type of guy when it comes to earnest mistakes in the heat of a game. Nobody knows exactly what was going through Hudson's mind at that moment in time besides him. I do however like to pin the blame on piss poor tackling technique that was an issue all season long on the guy who appropriately lost his job over it. (or at least I'm hoping that was the reason).

Clearly he was thinking that the ball somehow caught on fire and that he must get it as far away from his body as possible. Ninja

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(01-07-2025, 07:25 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Being woefully unprepared to start the season (again) cost us our season. Turns out continuing to start almost every season 0-2 (0-3 this year, and 1-4) makes things much harder on you and that's not just a Hudson problem...

And every year we have some fans claiming its not that big of a deal to keep starting slow as long as we finish strong.    Starting slow does matter.  We absolutely need to start better next year and drop the excuses.
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(01-07-2025, 10:51 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: And every year we have some fans claiming its not that big of a deal to keep starting slow as long as we finish strong.    Starting slow does matter.  We absolutely need to start better next year and drop the excuses.

I don't think many dispute that slow starts hurt us. I think the dispute comes as to why.

I do think there's a dispute over is finishing strong a good thing 
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(01-07-2025, 10:51 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: And every year we have some fans claiming its not that big of a deal to keep starting slow as long as we finish strong.    Starting slow does matter.  We absolutely need to start better next year and drop the excuses.

(01-07-2025, 11:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I don't think many dispute that slow starts hurt us. I think the dispute comes as to why.

I do think there's a dispute over is finishing strong a good thing 

To everyone: What can we do to start faster? More intense training camp and offseason practices? It's a long season, so don't want to tire ourselves out.

Is it just bad luck? Lost four of the first five but they were all by less than a score.
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HEY YO! INSTEAD OF POSTING STUPID ***** PICTURES OF THE STUPID ***** SHITTY TEAM THAT BEAT US THIS YEAR IN THE STUPID ***** FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR, COULD WE TALK SOME MORE ABOUT HOW ***** GREAT MIKE TOMLIN IS, TO HAVE NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON??????!!!!!!!!!


 


MAYBE EVEN POST SOME STUPID ***** PICTURE OF TOMLIN STANDING THERE LOOKING ALL G WITH HIS STUPID ***** SUNGLASSES ON OR SOMETHING?!?!





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I saw that this morning, as well. Was a game that was supposed to be an easy kick off to a championship run. It was just disgusting.

People talk about games that were close and we "could have won" and ignore the ones where we "could have lost." It's the NFL and most games are within a score. Bengals landed on the right side of that against lesser opponents. Should been the same way with NE, but wasn't. It is pretty much the outlier of who we did and did not beat.
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So those who said the season was over after the NE loss pretty much nailed it….
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Opening day games are so tough because everyone still has hope. Also when you factor in new pieces on the team, Tee injury, and Chase being on a pitch count then the loss does make sense.
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(01-07-2025, 11:31 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: HEY YO! INSTEAD OF POSTING STUPID ***** PICTURES OF THE STUPID ***** SHITTY TEAM THAT BEAT US THIS YEAR IN THE STUPID ***** FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR, COULD WE TALK SOME MORE ABOUT HOW ***** GREAT MIKE TOMLIN IS, TO HAVE NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON??????!!!!!!!!!


 


MAYBE EVEN POST SOME STUPID ***** PICTURE OF TOMLIN STANDING THERE LOOKING ALL G WITH HIS STUPID ***** SUNGLASSES ON OR SOMETHING?!?!

I know a coach who would have been the worst on that list with a .000 playoff win % if the criteria were a minimum of 7 playoff appearances…

I also read that the Bengals are 1-11 in weeks 1-2 over the last 6 years? That’s Zacs tenure and seems like it would actually be hard to do.
They have to change something because even the horrible Panthers have one more win than that.
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(01-07-2025, 07:06 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: On Good Morning Football, Peter Schrager listed our loss to the Patriots in week 1 as the most confusing games of the season.

He explains how it made no sense to him.

It starts at about 3:47, and he says how we'd be in the playoffs.

He says how big of a joke it is that we lost to a Mayo-coached team with Jacoby Brisset at quarterback, who's now starring in insurance commercials.

Sucks because, if Hudson doesn't fumble going in for the touchdown, we win that game.

Who knows because the rest of the season obviously doesn't go the same way, but it could also have gone better.

If all things were equal, that fumble cost us our season.

(There's a link where it says where it is in the video but it's tough to see on my computer.)

Hudson fumbled in 1st half with us doen 7, we had plenty time to win game, hr did not cost us the game
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what game did we go for 2 and loss instead of kicking the extra point to tie at the end?
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