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(01-23-2025, 08:33 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Dan Hoard has 20 min with Golden:
https://www.bengals.com/audio/bengals-booth-podcast-the-golden-age
Good listen. Nothing earthshaking.
BEST acronym for the defense: ball, effort, situation, tackling.
Base will be 425, 43 vs 12 or 21 personnel, but he stresses you have to be flexible and not too stuck to a particular scheme.
Critical to add more pass rush (not limited to front 4), more size inside, and have high IQ guys, particularly at LB & S making the calls.
Also was asked about ND's "viper" position, a DE/OLB type athletic enough to drop but big enough to set the edge.
I love that he'll be versatile and be tough for offensive coordinators to gameplay for.
Tackling and effort is important since he likes to play man and rely on the secondary to cover the receivers,
His aggressive style is what gets me excited because I think Burrow, and the offense, will feed off of the energy of the defense.
(01-23-2025, 09:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: That's also a two way street. The DC has to be able to identify the specific qualities that he's looking for in a player, in order for the management to make the appropriate selection.
Kind of reminds me of the draft thread I just started and kind of proves that, while a huge scouting department might bot be necessary anymore, teams definitely need a decent size one to identify players with the qualities and style of play that a coach wants.
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(01-23-2025, 08:09 PM)pally Wrote: Dehner talked with a long-time Notre Dame reporter about Al as a defensive coordinator. One thing stood out to me. He said with injuries al had to play the Redshirt sophomore, and 1st year freshman...and he expected them to perform and they did. He added that Al believes that ANY player on an NFL team roster should be ready to play at any time. So hopefully no more waiting to play someone until he plays like a veteran and then complaining that he never develops.
He said a strength of Al's is player development
those are positive vibes
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I'll get excited when i see the Bengals with the 16th or better defense these next few years.
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(01-23-2025, 07:53 PM)pally Wrote: As we all know by now, Al Golden is our new DC. So we can move all our speculation about his coaching to a new thead!!! Sunset said I could start a new welcome thread.
Holy Crap. I wish I had seen this coming. Who would have guessed ? I mean I know I posted a day ago that CBS and ESPN said this was a done deal and it got moved. But of course, Sunset allows a thread that it's official. I guess CBS ad ESPN wasn't official enough. Who would have guessed ? Golden as the DC for Bengals. What earth shaking news. Thank you for this post, See, this is why you guys are top rated posters. You saw Golden as DC when nobody else did. Shades of Nostradamus.
But in the end, WELCOME GOLDEN. I hope he can fix this lousy defense, Get Burrow and Company back in Play-Offs and a run at Super Bowl.
Some upsides to Golden. He played and later coached under Joe Paterno, who was a Defensive Guru. Golden being hired as Head Coach of Miami Hurricanes is impressive. Golden has coached under Zac Taylor before in the Super Bowl year. Golden being hired as D Coordinator by Notre Dame is impressive.
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(01-23-2025, 07:53 PM)pally Wrote: As we all know by now, Al Golden is our new DC. So we can move all our speculation about his coaching to a new thead!!! Sunset said I could start a new welcome thread.
Aren’t you lucky.
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(01-23-2025, 10:01 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I love that he'll be versatile and be tough for offensive coordinators to gameplay for.
Tackling and effort is important since he likes to play man and rely on the secondary to cover the receivers,
His aggressive style is what gets me excited because I think Burrow, and the offense, will feed off of the energy of the defense.
Kind of reminds me of the draft thread I just started and kind of proves that, while a huge scouting department might bot be necessary anymore, teams definitely need a decent size one to identify players with the qualities and style of play that a coach wants.
brad.."tackling and effort" is important regardless of scheme
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Awe man... I was pretty happy until I heard that clip about supporting your QB...."We've got to get him the ball" I hope someone can tell me this is not the case, but when Golden came here as a linebackers coach, is that about the same time Pratt and the others just started trying to rip the ball out on every play instead of securing the tackle?
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(01-24-2025, 10:02 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Awe man... I was pretty happy until I heard that clip about supporting your QB...."We've got to get him the ball" I hope someone can tell me this is not the case, but when Golden came here as a linebackers coach, is that about the same time Pratt and the others just started trying to rip the ball out on every play instead of securing the tackle?
I think Pratt started that in 22... Golden was fine by then. I could be wrong though.
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(01-24-2025, 10:02 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Awe man... I was pretty happy until I heard that clip about supporting your QB...."We've got to get him the ball" I hope someone can tell me this is not the case, but when Golden came here as a linebackers coach, is that about the same time Pratt and the others just started trying to rip the ball out on every play instead of securing the tackle?
Was actually after he left: Pratt started doing that in '22, Golden was in ND at that point.
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(01-24-2025, 10:23 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Was actually after he left: Pratt started doing that in '22, Golden was in ND at that point.
Well that's good. I thought for a minute maybe that came from him. Nevermind, I'm happy again...
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I've seen a few break downs of his schemes in action. He LOVES to use LBs to delay blitz, cross over and over load the blind side of the QB. He uses the DL to create the shits and openings. Also, the reviews I've seen show clearly that his players are reacting to motion to make sure everyone is covered/accounted for.
It is certainly a reactive/action defense, but also disciplined where everyone knows their job. I think in the NFL the latter is more important than the former.
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(01-23-2025, 09:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You're asking a lot from a guy on his first day on the job, aren't you? 
I am but I just hate to see a draft pick wasted like that. I'm just hoping there's something there, something to tap into.
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(01-24-2025, 12:37 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I'll get excited when i see the Bengals with the 16th or better defense these next few years.
Right
We don't have to be an All-World defense. Just average
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If he can fix the tackling and the "everyone knows their job" problems the defense will skyrocket.
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(01-24-2025, 06:03 AM)kevin Wrote: Holy Crap. I wish I had seen this coming. Who would have guessed ? I mean I know I posted a day ago that CBS and ESPN said this was a done deal and it got moved. But of course, Sunset allows a thread that it's official. I guess CBS ad ESPN wasn't official enough. Who would have guessed ? Golden as the DC for Bengals. What earth shaking news. Thank you for this post, See, this is why you guys are top rated posters. You saw Golden as DC when nobody else did. Shades of Nostradamus.
But in the end, WELCOME GOLDEN. I hope he can fix this lousy defense, Get Burrow and Company back in Play-Offs and a run at Super Bowl.
Some upsides to Golden. He played and later coached under Joe Paterno, who was a Defensive Guru. Golden being hired as Head Coach of Miami Hurricanes is impressive. Golden has coached under Zac Taylor before in the Super Bowl year. Golden being hired as D Coordinator by Notre Dame is impressive.
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(01-24-2025, 10:23 AM)jason Wrote: I think Pratt started that in 22... Golden was fine by then. I could be wrong though.
(01-24-2025, 10:23 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Was actually after he left: Pratt started doing that in '22, Golden was in ND at that point.
Troof. I was watching a NFL Replay of a game from '21 a while back and during the broadcast, they mentioned that the Bengals were one of the best tackling teams of that year. Something like #1 or #2 least in missed tackles.
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His head coaching record is exactly .500
He's a previous employee, buddy buddy with people, knows how to go along to get along. This is a very Bengals hire. I think that they missed out on some better options for DC honestly. Golden seems high floor low ceiling. Maybe that was the idea.
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(01-24-2025, 12:42 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: His head coaching record is exactly .500
He's a previous employee, buddy buddy with people, knows how to go along to get along. This is a very Bengals hire. I think that they missed out on some better options for DC honestly. Golden seems high floor low ceiling. Maybe that was the idea.
While we all want a top 5 defense, we really just need a middle of the pack defense and the offense will carry us the rest of the way.
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(01-24-2025, 12:42 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: His head coaching record is exactly .500
He's a previous employee, buddy buddy with people, knows how to go along to get along. This is a very Bengals hire. I think that they missed out on some better options for DC honestly. Golden seems high floor low ceiling. Maybe that was the idea.
Why would we care about his record as a HC? Most of the best candidates out there this cycle were terrible HC’s.
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(01-24-2025, 11:24 AM)Stewy Wrote: I've seen a few break downs of his schemes in action. He LOVES to use LBs to delay blitz, cross over and over load the blind side of the QB. He uses the DL to create the shits and openings. Also, the reviews I've seen show clearly that his players are reacting to motion to make sure everyone is covered/accounted for.
It is certainly a reactive/action defense, but also disciplined where everyone knows their job. I think in the NFL the latter is more important than the former.
Man, I would love it if our DL could give Mahomes a case of the shits.
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