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2025 NFL Combine Open Thread
#21
Damn it. For some reason I really want Harmon. Don’t need his stock going up.
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#22
(02-26-2025, 11:37 AM)Synric Wrote: Bengals are meeting with alot of the first round edge prospects. Mykel Williams, Mike Green, ShemarStewart, James Pearce Jr, and Nic Scourton. They didn't meet with Jack Sawyer or Jalon Walker.

They met with LB Collin Oliver and he said the Bengals really liked him.
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#23
DE 1:
Ht: 6050
WT: 267
Arms: 34.125
Forty: 4.59
Vert: 40.5"
Broad: 10'11"
Bench: TBD

DE 2:
Ht: 6045
WT: 272
Arms:35.25
Forty: 4.64
Vert: 41"
Broad: 10'8"
Bench: 33

DE1: SHEMAR STEWART

DE2: MYLES GARRETT
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(02-27-2025, 07:41 PM)Synric Wrote: James Pearce jr came in at 6'5 245 and only had a 31 inch Vert. That's not a good look. He better have a sub 1.6 10 yard split.


Edit: And it's a 1.58 10 yard split 4.5 forty unoffical. 

Second time was 1.56, 4.47 unoffical.

Pearce Jr is a stud IMO
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#25
(02-27-2025, 09:49 PM)Synric Wrote: Demetrius Knight with a 4.58 forty unoffical solidifies his Germaine Pratt comp.

Rather have Danny Stutsman or Campbell
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#26
(02-27-2025, 11:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: DE 1:
Ht: 6050
WT: 267
Arms: 34.125
Forty: 4.59
Vert: 40.5"
Broad: 10'11"
Bench: TBD

DE 2:
Ht: 6045
WT: 272
Arms:35.25
Forty: 4.64
Vert: 41"
Broad: 10'8"
Bench: 33

DE1: SHEMAR STEWART

DE2: MYLES GARRETT
The difference is one had the stats to back it up and the other doesn't.... HUGE difference.
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(02-27-2025, 11:23 PM)pulses Wrote: The difference is one had the stats to back it up and the other doesn't.... HUGE difference.

Yeah, about 16 spots
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#28
(02-27-2025, 11:43 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yeah, about 16 spots
We won't draft another project.....but whatever you think Hilarious
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#29
(02-27-2025, 11:54 PM)pulses Wrote: We won't draft another project.....but whatever you think Hilarious

Perhaps someone more proven like Myles Murphy 
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(02-28-2025, 12:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Perhaps someone more proven like Myles Murphy 
Someone with production and upside to back it up and that's not Stewart. As you can see he's towards the bottom hence we don't need another project.

https://prnt.sc/QPA5FcdAjRas
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(02-28-2025, 12:21 AM)pulses Wrote: [Image: football_insights_2025_edge_dt_class_career]
Someone with production and upside to back it up and that's not Stewart. As you can see he's towards the bottom hence we don't need another project.

https://prnt.sc/QPA5FcdAjRas

Sure, Mims didn't have a lot of production, we drafted him on traits. 

Stewart's lack of sacks (not production) of course makes him a risk and I may prefer someone else at #17, but I'll bet you someone who gets paid to evaluate is taking note of those measurables. 
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#32
(02-28-2025, 12:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Perhaps someone more proven like Myles Murphy 

I did not like the Murphy pick. But I hope you would agree each pick in round in succession gets riskier. Murphy was pick #28, we have pick 17. To be it on context, if we traded down to 28 from 17, we would also get at least a 2nd round pick or 2 players for 1 draft pick.

I think due to 2 QB's being taken who are not really top 17 picks in my humble opinion, but will get picked in top 6, we will get a true top 15 player. 
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 Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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#33
(02-28-2025, 12:33 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure, Mims didn't have a lot of production, we drafted him on traits. 

Stewart's lack of sacks (not production) of course makes him a risk and I may prefer someone else at #17, but I'll bet you someone who gets paid to evaluate is taking note of those measurables. 
You see guys with measurables like that every year fly up draft boards and get over drafted and way more times than not it's a BUST. When you have a class like this that is loaded with proven production you take that every time.

And the jury is still out on Mims he could be a bust as well.
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#34
Stewart's RAS score was the best ever since 1987.  Out of 1802 DE's that have been tested, he ranked 1st.  

https://aggieswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/aggies/football/2025/02/27/shemar-stewart-nfl-scouting-combine-relative-athletic-score-2025-nfl-draft/80763233007/
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#35
After yesterday I like Jihaad Campbell even more. He has so much versatility and this defense is desperate need of a guy who can do multiple things. I still want Warren first if he’s still available but there’s very few defenders in this entire draft I like more than Campbell.
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#36
(02-27-2025, 11:15 PM)pulses Wrote: They met with LB Collin Oliver and he said the Bengals really liked him.


I was able to get to a couple Collin Oliver games last night and I need to watch more but the testing shows up. I'm not worried about him not doing the agility drills either because it looked like he's every bit as smooth as he is twitchy. The Oklahoma game really showed his inexperience playing off the ball.

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(02-28-2025, 09:50 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Stewart's RAS score was the best ever since 1987.  Out of 1802 DE's that have been tested, he ranked 1st.  

https://aggieswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/aggies/football/2025/02/27/shemar-stewart-nfl-scouting-combine-relative-athletic-score-2025-nfl-draft/80763233007/

That athleticism will definitely come in handy, especially when chasing guys like Lamarr Jackson around the field.
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#38
(02-28-2025, 01:34 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not like the Murphy pick. But Ihope you would agree each pick in round in succession gets riskier. Murphy was pick #28, we have pick 17. To be it on context, if we traded down to 28 from 17, we would also get at least a 2nd round pick or 2 players for 1 draft pick.

I think due to 2 QB's being taken who are not really top 17 picks in my humble opinion, but will get picked in top 6, we will get a true top 15 player. 

And I'm not saying I want the Bengals to go Stewart at 17, but he did have as many sacks his first 3-Years as Adain Hutchinson, Hutch just blew up his 4th year and Stewart is entering the draft.
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#39
(02-28-2025, 12:33 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure, Mims didn't have a lot of production, we drafted him on traits. 

Stewart's lack of sacks (not production) of course makes him a risk and I may prefer someone else at #17, but I'll bet you someone who gets paid to evaluate is taking note of those measurables. 

A team (most teams?) will salivate over the measurables of Stewart and see a fantastic toy to polish.
It will ultimately come down to the right team and coaches who can refine that piece of clay.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

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(02-28-2025, 02:40 PM)ochocincos Wrote: A team (most teams?) will salivate over the measurables of Stewart and see a fantastic toy to polish.
It will ultimately come down to the right team and coaches who can refine that piece of clay.

So he’s going to the Eagles…great
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