Why are they shopping a guy who whatever his college reputation is getting paid 2-3M and is currently listed as TE2 (of 4) on the depth chart?
Bengals are currently looking at Sample, Grandy, and McClachlan, and used Sam Hubbard and not one of these guys to catch the ball. I could see a 5th or 6th. Even better if it was a future conditional pick. Getting a long-term TE2 who is solid but won't break the bank would be a nice piece.
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(03-01-2025, 03:14 PM)puddycat Wrote: Why are they shopping a guy who whatever his college reputation is getting paid 2-3M and is currently listed as TE2 (of 4) on the depth chart?
Bengals are currently looking at Sample, Grandy, and McClachlan, and used Sam Hubbard and not one of these guys to catch the ball. I could see a 5th or 6th. Even better if it was a future conditional pick. Getting a long-term TE2 who is solid but won't break the bank would be a nice piece.
He was talented enough to be a 2nd round pick and he'd be better than anyone we have on our roster if we can get him focused and back in his comfort zone.
If we can get him and an early round draft pick for Higgins, who we'll probably lose next year anyways, it's a no-brainer.
He hasn't had the chance to really break out because Bower came in after his rookie year but he'd kill it with Burrow throwing him the ball!
It would also open up our draft a lot!
Trade them Higgins for Mayer and a 4th or 5th rounder.
Lucky for us he didn't do well for them but I think he could be really good with us.
A pure matador blocking do not want, Gesicki Sample & Eric All great 3. It’s why we had negative zero interest in him in the draft and why Raiders are dumping him
(03-01-2025, 03:14 PM)puddycat Wrote: Why are they shopping a guy who whatever his college reputation is getting paid 2-3M and is currently listed as TE2 (of 4) on the depth chart?
Bengals are currently looking at Sample, Grandy, and McClachlan, and used Sam Hubbard and not one of these guys to catch the ball. I could see a 5th or 6th. Even better if it was a future conditional pick. Getting a long-term TE2 who is solid but won't break the bank would be a nice piece.
I agree.
Trading a 5th or 6th is reasonable, since he would be stepping in as TE2. My only issue is if Mayer is mentally soft, which we had questions about earlier last season when fans discussed trading for him.
(03-01-2025, 06:07 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yes, that would be a great scenario. However, you also have to consider that Eric All may never be what he was for those brief 5 games again.
That is the sad possibility that we need to be prepared for. I thought Mason Taylor may be there in round three, but I don't think he will make it out of round 2.
I would be interested in seeing how he does in our offense, if we get him for a 6th rounder.
(03-01-2025, 07:00 PM)XsandOs Wrote: That is the sad possibility that we need to be prepared for. I thought Mason Taylor may be there in round three, but I don't think he will make it out of round 2.
I would be interested in seeing how he does in our offense, if we get him for a 6th rounder.
Yeah, I also think that Mason Taylor is a complete player. He blocks well when not involved in the play, he's a gifted receiver, he's got the stride to get downfield effiortlessly.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
(03-01-2025, 11:36 AM)BenZoo2 Wrote: Jake browning and Higgins for maxx Crosby, Mayer and a 3rd rd pick. I’m still working on my first cup of coffee so this may be tongue in cheek.
So I love having 2 phenomenal DEs and I've been behind trading Browning if need be if someone values him enough. Not sure Oakland is that team, more like Tennessee if they don't go QB with 1 and have given up on Levis. This is creative though.
If he could be had for cheap this could make sense. Gesicki may be the best TE on the market so he may get overpaid. As much as I'd push to keep him, they need DL help and if Tee stays then we will be pinching pennies even with a Burrow restructure.
I could see Mayer as a bridge TE to split time with Sample (depending on formation) and wouldn't preclude you from drafting a TE. It makes more sense to start Mayer than expect a rookie mid to late pick to start.
(03-01-2025, 03:11 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: But you have no response or points as to why that's a bad idea?
Never change, Nicomo.
It’s a bad idea because you want to trade the consensus #1 FA for a project TE just because he’s from NKY. They’d likely get better value from a 3rd round comp pick for Tee than trading him for Mayer.
(Yesterday, 12:26 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Im keeping Higgins all day over bringing Mayer in with some bogus package
That's a given Frank. Tee Higgins is a top 20 NFL Wide Receiver and is obviously comfortable with the system, the QB, and last but not least the other star receiver. Now if they can't come to an contract agreement the Raiders offer the best trade chance + potential value with pick #37. Michael Mayer would just be the extra late round value thrown in.
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I was typing to an old coach from our school last night and he confirmed what I mentioned and what I had been thinking all along and that’s that he said that Michael just wasn’t handling being away from home or the big city life too well.
He’s more of a reserved type that isn’t built for cities like Vegas or LA.
Bring him home and get him in his comfort zone and he’ll become the Baby Gronk that he was predicted to be in college.
Even being in college, he went to Notre Dame, which is a Catholic school and not the big party atmosphere.
We’d be missing out on a potential major game changer if we didn’t at least try to get him.
(03-01-2025, 03:11 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I agree I that I wouldn't include Higgins if we didn't get a draft pick back, and maybe it would take an early round pick to make the trade for Higgins to make sense, but the Raiders need a receiver and, if we're going to lose Higgins next year anyways, then why not bring in Mayer?
Like I keep saying, people are underestimating just how much he could do for this offense with Burrow throwing him the ball. People were calling him Baby Gronk coming out of college and he still has that ability, it just needs to be unlocked.
But you have no response or points as to why that's a bad idea?
Never change, Nicomo.
Exactly, and I think being back home would allow him to focus and be better mentally, which would improve his game a lot.
He went to Notre Dame for college, which isn't exactly the big party school where he was out of his comfort zone. He's really just more of a calm dude that would get the job done and flourish here with Burrow throwing him the ball.
He had a nice rookie year and showed potential, and let's not forget that he didn't have Joe Burrow throwing him the ball or a receiver like Chase on the outside to take pressure away from him.
Brock Bowers didn't have Joe Burrow or a WR like Chase to take pressure off either... He thrived.
(Yesterday, 01:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I was typing to an old coach from our school last night and he confirmed what I mentioned and what I had been thinking all along and that’s that he said that Michael just wasn’t handling being away from home or the big city life too well.
He’s more of a reserved type that isn’t built for cities like Vegas or LA.
Bring him home and get him in his comfort zone and he’ll become the Baby Gronk that he was predicted to be in college.
Even being in college, he went to Notre Dame, which is a Catholic school and not the big party atmosphere.
We’d be missing out on a potential major game changer if we didn’t at least try to get him.
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(Yesterday, 03:06 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Notre Dame absolutely has a party scene.
Two of my best friends went to Notre Dame, so I know they do, but not like Vegas or LA and it was all college kids and his friends and teammates. Going to class every day also had to give him a sense of community.
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(Yesterday, 02:04 PM)jason Wrote: Brock Bowers didn't have Joe Burrow or a WR like Chase to take pressure off either... He thrived.
Like I said, maybe he just didn't gel with Minshew or O'Connel because his mind wasn't in it enough.
Bringing him home to Cincy would unleash his ability.
If we do bring him in and he busts, I'll give you and whoever else disagrees with me that it's a good move 200 or more rep points, but if he comes in and is good, I expect the same in return!
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