BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded

[Sled21]

(03-24-2025, 11:22 AM)jj22 Wrote: Seems like you've turned this more about Burton. Which wasn't really what noting Pearce's character concerns was really about. Let's not get distracted by mentioning Burton if it's triggering.

The point. Pearce has character concerns, immaturity and coaching. But he hasn't shoved a girl you are right so it's not a perfect comparison. 

First things first, does he understand how to write a rent check?

[higgy100]

(03-24-2025, 01:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: First things first, does he understand how to write a rent check?

But can he make half-court shots? Now that's athletic ability.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zpxpLewc_i0

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-22-2025, 02:51 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I am in favor of trying to land a stud at #17, regardless of position. Or nearly so. 

Warren (TE), Walker (LB/Edge), Johnson (CB), Membou/W. Campbell (G/OT), J. Campbell (LB), and Emmanwori (S) all fall squarely in that category for me. 

Jeanty does too at RB, but I think I'd pass there. Unless we get Trey extended and have more FA reinforcements up front in hand. i'd pass on Burden & McMillan & Golden at WR or an OT I don't think is really a G. 

I like Nolen, Harmon, Grant, Starks, and Green, but I don't believe they are surefire standouts like the others. Possible. But not slam dunks. 

I like Loveland a lot but I would not draft a TE who is primarily a big slot WR, we have Gesicki/Hudson for that. 

I don't even mention Ashton Jeanty, but man, he sure is a stud himself. We have to take care of the trenches or add that Viper like Walker IMO.

But man, Jeanty sure would be another star to add to the Offense. Highly doubt we draft him and if we added a weapon, Warren makes the most
sense, but Jeanty is one hell of a RB have to say. So hard to bring down and he can do it all. He would bring that physicality along with big play 
ability to the RB position. But it would really surprise me if we drafted him.

(03-23-2025, 08:12 PM)samhain Wrote: It kind of takes him out of the running for me.  This team has really painted itself into a corner with the lackluster free agency and oddly structured receiver deals.  We need someone that isn't already slated to miss a chunk of the season.  

In the 2nd round I would take Jihad if he falls that far because of the shoulder. Teams want their 1st round pick to be able to practice at
the very least heading into their first season. I could see Jihad falling out of the first now.

(03-23-2025, 09:26 PM)jj22 Wrote: Greens been accused of sexual assault at two different schools…..

Pearce has Burton character concerns.

We can get a pass rusher or two on day 2. 3T or safety in the first.

Did not know that about Green. No way Pearce has character concerns to Burton's level...

(03-24-2025, 10:23 AM)Memphis_Bengal Wrote: This is horse shit. As a Tennessee fan I can tell you they are not remotely in the same category. His teammates loved him and coaches respected his work ethic. He was never in trouble and never changed teams. He may have been a bit surly at times but comparing him to Burton is silly. 

Agree, he might have some coachability concerns but that is about it. He isn't a dumbass like Burton appears to be.

[jj22]

(03-24-2025, 04:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Did not know that about Green. No way Pearce has character concerns to Burton's level...

They are... He is off some boards. 

2025 NFL Draft Prospects: Defensive End – WalterFootball

[jj22]

(03-24-2025, 01:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: First things first, does he understand how to write a rent check?

He'd forget it was due from the sounds of it.

Why NFL Teams Are Dropping James Pearce Jr Off Their Draft Boards | Jon Cooper - YouTube

11:58 mark.

But we can save the rest of this discussion for the draft forum. 

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Bengals one of 29 teams at Marshall's pro day.

Doesn't seem like too many teams have Green off the board.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/cincinnati_bengals_one_of_many_teams_showing_interest_in_marshall_star_edge_rusher_mike_green/s1_16652_41951580

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-24-2025, 04:22 PM)jj22 Wrote: They are... He is off some boards. 

2025 NFL Draft Prospects: Defensive End – WalterFootball

Says according to some team's sources. Memphis_Bengal is a Tennessee fan and stands by the guy, that is good enough for me.

Burton is as talented as it gets but is a complete dumbass evidently, I wouldn't compare this to Pearce.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-24-2025, 07:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Says according to some team's sources. Memphis_Bengal is a Tennessee fan and stands by the guy, that is good enough for me.

Burton is as talented as it gets but is a complete dumbass evidently, I wouldn't compare this to Pearce.

He is viewing the scene through Orange shaded lenses, the same as Buckeye fans like I tend to see OSU players through Scarlet shaded lenses...

[BFritz21]

This article suggests trading Hendrickson to the Packers for three draft picks, which would be too good of a deal to pass up, imco:

Quote:Seeing Myles Garrett cash in with $40 million per year already cost Cincinnati more than what they surely wanted with Ja'Marr Chase, and their decision to also keep Tee Higgins further tightened their financial belt. While the idea of losing one of the league's premier pass-rushers seems crazy, there's a line of thinking that Cincinnati's defense has been bad with Hendrickson, so paying him $35 million or more won't fix the unit. Trading him for a major haul can do as much good or more if they hit.

The Packers are an ideal landing spot for a top-notch defensive star. This is a young roster with only a few notable needs, so spending two picks in this class won't sting. They've also managed their cap well and have the future flexibility needed to justify adding a top pass-rusher contract to its books.

Coming off four straight Pro Bowls and an All-Pro season, the 30-year-old Hendrickson is still at the peak of his powers. The Packers have one high-level presence in Rashan Gary on the roster but are otherwise too reliant on rotational talents and scheming to create opportunities. Hendrickson solves that immediately and can be the bridge into future years when Gary will also exit his prime years.

He has put up a crazy amount of sacks the past few years but, like it says, that hasn't translated to much success for our defense overall.

He's hitting thirty and, let's be honest, even if he were to repeat the previous few years' success, how long would it be before he completely falls off or even to a level that wouldn't even come close to justifying that kind of salary?

This trade would give us the ability to draft one of the better guards and still have the ability to draft our other needs, including at least one pass rusher, or it gives us trade capital to get a guard or end.

I know we're the most stubborn team in pro sports history, but we really need to make this happen because we can't have that much money tied up in four players, and Hendrickson's the odd man out because he'll be thirty.

I'd be on the phone accepting this deal before they could even receive the email reply!

[WeezyBengal]

(Yesterday, 05:58 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: This article suggests trading Hendrickson to the Packers for three draft picks, which would be too good of a deal to pass up, imco:


He has put up a crazy amount of sacks the past few years but, like it says, that hasn't translated to much success for our defense overall.

He's hitting thirty and, let's be honest, even if he were to repeat the previous few years' success, how long would it be before he completely falls off or even to a level that wouldn't even come close to justifying that kind of salary?

This trade would give us the ability to draft one of the better guards and still have the ability to draft our other needs, including at least one pass rusher, or it gives us trade capital to get a guard or end.

I know we're the most stubborn team in pro sports history, but we really need to make this happen because we can't have that much money tied up in four players, and Hendrickson's the odd man out because he'll be thirty.

I'd be on the phone accepting this deal before they could even receive the email reply!

Just because he's 30 doesn't mean he's going to just start sucking. There are a TON of players that have been successful in this league past their 30th birthday. 

Him being 30 does matter, but it matters in the context of the contract he gets. 

Am I signing him to a 5 year extension? No. Would I be willing to do a 2 year extension on what he currently has? Sure. No reason to believe that wouldn't be a good thing for the Bengals. 

Also, I keep seeing "We can't tie up all of our money into so many players". OK, so who do you want to give the money to? The Bengals are going to have a plethora of cap space next year. Who do you want to spend it on? Who's worthy of an extension? 

[*ochocincos*]

(03-24-2025, 07:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Says according to some team's sources. Memphis_Bengal is a Tennessee fan and stands by the guy, that is good enough for me.

Burton is as talented as it gets but is a complete dumbass evidently, I wouldn't compare this to Pearce.

(03-24-2025, 10:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He is viewing the scene through Orange shaded lenses, the same as Buckeye fans like I tend to see OSU players through Scarlet shaded lenses...

If Pearce's concerns are as bad as some are thinking, it's likely he'll drop out of the first round, possibly further.
At what round do teams take a gamble because they would potentially be getting a 1st round talent but (way) later in the draft?

I'd have a hard time passing him up in Rd 4, possibly Rd 3 depending on the DEs available.

[QueenCity]

Surprised we haven't heard more on Trey.... seems like the Bengals should make a deal or move on soon?

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 10:11 AM)ochocincos Wrote: If Pearce's concerns are as bad as some are thinking, it's likely he'll drop out of the first round, possibly further.
At what round do teams take a gamble because they would potentially be getting a 1st round talent but (way) later in the draft?

I'd have a hard time passing him up in Rd 4, possibly Rd 3 depending on the DEs available.

I would agree with that being a good time to take a risk on his obvious talent level.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Hendrickson is not gonna be traded. And there is no rush from a FO perspective. Camp Hendrickson only loses more leverage as time goes on. After the draft as teams fill out their rosters. Training camp.

The Bengsls will only accept a VERY lopsided trade. Which no one will agree to. After the draft, a deal makes no sense because we could not replace him.

These clickbait articles are just that.

And, I gotta say, these arguments I see saying, "yeah, Trey is great but the D still stinks, so we should trade him"....are some of the silliestcarguments I have ever seen.

FFS, you could have said the same thing after Burrow year 1. The offense still stunk. Some people made the same silly arguments about Reader and the run D. How did that go?

It is a team sport. If you cannot spot the fact that Hendrickson is our best defensive player by a country mile, and a top 3 pass rusher in the league (Garrett, Pardons), then I don't know what to say. You build the D back up AROUND that guy. You don't get rid of him.

[THE PISTONS]

(Yesterday, 10:13 AM)QueenCity Wrote: Surprised we haven't heard more on Trey.... seems like the Bengals should make a deal or move on soon?

What exactly does make a deal soon mean?

Say Trey wants $35 million a year, do you just give him that?

The prudent thing in negotiations is to take time and offer what you're willing to pay...and the other side comes down.

I know it freaks people out that some of these situations are unresolved, but that's negotiations.

[QueenCity]

(Yesterday, 11:22 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: What exactly does make a deal soon mean?

Say Trey wants $35 million a year, do you just give him that?

The prudent thing in negotiations is to take time and offer what you're willing to pay...and the other side comes down.

I know it freaks people out that some of these situations are unresolved, but that's negotiations.

Well to me I'd like a deal done before the draft so trading him would still be on the table.

I'm not saying give him exactly the $$$ he's asking for...

[Luvnit2]

There are 2 sides negotiating. Trey wants a boatload more money than the 15.8 million he is under contract to receive in 2025 of which none is guaranteed. The team has Trey under a 1 year team friendly contract.

Both sides will not get what they want so compromise is needed. I don't see Bengals trading Trey. I also don't see the Bengals giving Trey a lot more money in 2025. I do see them working on an extension where Trey is paid more than he would get if franchised in 2026 and then a non guaranteed year 3 at closer to the 30 million a year he is requesting.

Keep in mind, Trey has zero money guaranteed right now so if he wants job security, a future guarantee is as valuable as the extra money.

As others have said, there is no hurry on behalf of the team to get it done prior to the draft if they have no plans to trade Trey.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 12:20 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: There are 2 sides negotiating. Trey wants a boatload more money than the 15.8 million he isunder contract to receive in 2025 of which none is guaranteed. The team has Trey under a 1 year team friendly contract.

Both sides will not get what they want so compromise is needed. I don't see Bengals trading Trey. I also don't see the Bengals giving Trey a lot more money in 2025. I do see them working on an extension where Trey is paid more than he would get if franchised in 2026 and then a non guaranteed year 3 at closer to the 30 million a year he is requesting.

Keep in mind, Trey has zero money guaranteed right now so if he wants job security, a future guarantee is as valuable as the extra money.

As others have said, there is no hurry on behalf of the team to get it done prior to the draft if they have no plans to trade Trey.

Well i think they do trade Trey is someone comes close to their asking price, but i don;t think any team is going to offer that trade bar the Bengals want

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-24-2025, 10:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He is viewing the scene through Orange shaded lenses, the same as Buckeye fans like I tend to see OSU players through Scarlet shaded lenses...

He is is he? Still, if I was a fan of the team you would think I would know more about a star player on said team...

All I know is James Pearce is a damn good player, but if he is as bad as JJ22 is making him out to be, he should fall a long ways
and might be off our board after the Burton pick.

(Yesterday, 10:11 AM)ochocincos Wrote: If Pearce's concerns are as bad as some are thinking, it's likely he'll drop out of the first round, possibly further.
At what round do teams take a gamble because they would potentially be getting a 1st round talent but (way) later in the draft?

I'd have a hard time passing him up in Rd 4, possibly Rd 3 depending on the DEs available.

I would take that gamble in the 3rd or 4th round for sure.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 01:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: He is is he? Still, if I was a fan of the team you would think I would know more about a star player on said team...

All I know is James Pearce is a damn good player, but if he is as bad as JJ22 is making him out to be, he should fall a long ways
and might be off our board after the Burton pick.


I would take that gamble in the 3rd or 4th round for sure.

Well, I can admit that I was way off base in whole heartedly believing that Billy Price was going to be the Bengals foundational, cornerstone Center for 10-12 years.