Are the Bengtals cheap?

[WeezyBengal]

(03-12-2025, 06:25 PM)pally Wrote: Cheap isn't the word I would use.  They are risk adverse so they are unwilling to put themselves in future cap hell.  They are slow to adapt creative ways o structuring contracts.  And above all, they refuse to overpay players above what they think is their worth.  But we've seen it with Joe, Sam, even Trey when he first signed...they are willing to spend money but they prefer it to be on their terms

I'm begging them to put me in cap hell, daddy. 

[Mickeypoo]

(03-13-2025, 09:29 AM)Nepa Wrote: Yeah, The Family lucked into Burrow and Chase. Before that it was 30 years without a single playoff win. Just by blind chance, a team should be able to win a playoff game in three decades in a league that emphasizes parity. We just got to hope that with the foundation of Burrow the Bengals have a string of luck on draft picks and the way the ball bounces, because I think the grade is in with reference to FO/ownership competency and willingness to make the financial sacrifices necessary to bring a Lombardi.

Yup, you nailed it with the bolded.  If the Bengals didn't luck into those two we are likely still an awful team.  And how did we end up with Burrow and Chase?  Because we were a horrible team.

FA isn't over yet, so I will not say they failed, but I have little to no hope they do anything but fail in FA and also piss off 2 to 3 of our best players in the process.  It's crazy to watch.

[Mickeypoo]

(03-13-2025, 09:25 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Because the Bengals are their business. Other owners typically made their millions in other industries and their football team is just a side hustle for prestige.

Agree 100%

[ERIC1]

(03-12-2025, 05:21 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: And the Cleveland Browns are big spenders. Yet all 32 teams have to abide by the salary cap. And even have a minimum spend requirement.

1000%

[ERIC1]

(03-13-2025, 09:43 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Yup, you nailed it with the bolded.  If the Bengals didn't luck into those two we are likely still an awful team.  And how did we end up with Burrow and Chase?  Because we were a horrible team.

FA isn't over yet, so I will not say they failed, but I have little to no hope they do anything but fail in FA and also piss off 2 to 3 of our best players in the process.  It's crazy to watch.

this team won its last six games of the season last year..was playing remarkably well..  they are not failing in FA because they dont sign the big names you expect..yeah ..higgins is pissed off because hes getting paid what about 26 million  to play about 10-11 football games a year..

[t3r3e3]

(03-13-2025, 09:19 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: This is my perspective.

Our owner is a frugal, stubborn, old man who was never wealthy on his own.  He taught Katie everything he knows.  There is no indication they have any real smarts when it comes to building a championship team.  We have seen very recently zero creativity around structuring contracts and freeing up cap space.  They couldn't care less about their reputation or the fans.  They do not appear to have any care or take any pride in having a winning football team.  If they do, it doesn't show.

They have a very tight inner circle that has run the Bengals for decades upon decades.  That = an echo chamber.  Who has been brought into the FO that can give fresh perspective, come up with creative ideas, help move out of old, stubborn ways and move into the modern NFL way of running an NFL franchise?

I honestly don't think there is anything complicated about the Bengals FO.  They simply care far more about the business/money side than they do about the winning football games side.  I actually understand this and it makes sense as this is their livelihood and their personal income/paycheck vs other owners who are independently wealthy and bought an NFL team for fun/status.

They are also more than likely incompetent to run a modern NFL franchise when compared to their counterparts that run other NFL teams.

This! All of this!

[Mickeypoo]

(03-13-2025, 10:55 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: this team won its last six games of the season last year..was playing remarkably well..  they are not failing in FA because they dont sign the big names you expect..yeah ..higgins is pissed off because hes getting paid what about 26 million  to play about 10-11 football games a year..

I am not asking for big, expensive names in FA.  I am asking them to fill a very important need at G so our once in a generation qb doesn't get killed.  Also, wanting them to not piss off multiple star players does not seem unreasonable to me.  Chase at the minimum should already be done.

As pointed out by others there has been zero creativity with cap space.

The only thing I am asking is for this FO to operate at some level above complete incompetence.  Coming out and publicly saying they would make Chase the highest paid non-qb was an insane level of incompetence and it's blowing up in their face.  They should have done a deal last year.  

[StoneTheCrow]

I live in a somewhat rural area and the local high school has a larger scouting department for girl’s basketball.

They aren’t beating the allegations of cheapness.

[Millhouse]

Cheap, I don't know.

Incompetence because they are unwilling to evolve their front office from decades of the "Model-Model" with same people making decisions, that's a big fat easy yes.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-13-2025, 11:07 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: I am not asking for big, expensive names in FA.  I am asking them to fill a very important need at G so our once in a generation qb doesn't get killed.  Also, wanting them to not piss off multiple star players does not seem unreasonable to me.  Chase at the minimum should already be done.

As pointed out by others there has been zero creativity with cap space.

The only thing I am asking is for this FO to operate at some level above complete incompetence.  Coming out and publicly saying they would make Chase the highest paid non-qb was an insane level of incompetence and it's blowing up in their face.  They should have done a deal last year.  

No. they've proved iron clad that because Cleveland spends and is bad...that spending is bad. Just like Washington was always used. 

[Mickeypoo]

(03-13-2025, 11:26 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: No. they've proved iron clad that because Cleveland spends and is bad...that spending is bad. Just like Washington was always used. 

Ha ha!!