$125 million for 3 Players

[007BengalsFan]

(03-17-2025, 12:46 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Well offense gonna have to score a lot...

They wanted to be paid at the top, they need to produce at the top.  No excuses for the offense this year.  This season is on their shoulders.  No more 10 point games like the Patriots.  You want to beat the Eagles?  You have to score more than 17 and not turn the ball over.  Bengals defense holds Kansas City to 20 points?  The Bengals offense should be able to win that game.  The Bengals offense cant give other teams points when the defense is holding one of the best teams in the NFL to 20.  You go to overtime against the Ravens and your defense gets your offense has the ball?  The offense needs to score instead of relying on the defense to stop the Ravens twice in overtime.  You are playing the Chargers and the game is tied 27-27 in the 4th quarter.  The offense cant lay a big goose egg on the last 3 possessions in the 4th.  That is crunch time when your offense needs to step up but yet you score zero points on your last 3 possessions in the 4th?  You need to do better than that.  The guys on offense are being paid elite money at the very top.  The offense needs to play like it.  No excuses for the offense this year.  This season is on their shoulders.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-17-2025, 03:10 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: They wanted to be paid at the top, they need to produce at the top.  No excuses for the offense this year.  This season is on their shoulders.  No more 10 point games like the Patriots.  You want to beat the Eagles?  You have to score more than 17 and not turn the ball over.  Bengals defense holds Kansas City to 20 points?  The Bengals offense should be able to win that game.  The Bengals offense cant give other teams points when the defense is holding one of the best team in the NFL to 20.  You go to overtime against the Ravens and your defense gets your offense has the ball?  The offense needs to score instead of relying on the defense to stop the Ravens twice in overtime.  You are playing the Chargers and the game is tied 27-27 in the 4th quarter.  The offense cant lay a big goose egg on the last 3 possessions in the 4th.  That is crunch time when your offense needs to step up but yet you score zero points on your last 3 possessions in the 4th?  You need to do better than that.  The guys on offense are being paid elite money at the very top.  The offense needs to play like it.  No excuses for the offense this year.  This season is on their shoulders.

I agree in those instances for the most part. But the Defense will need to do it's part as well to not let us lose games where the Offense 
scores 38+ points. I think both could happen this year as long as we upgrade the trenches and have a good Draft and the new coaches 
are upgrades.

[CJD]

(03-17-2025, 10:32 AM)NotBigzo Wrote: The fact that you had to go that far back for an example of a nailed defender in the draft….


Im dead


I believe in drafting. I don’t believe in the Bengals drafting.

A team that can't draft will never compete for a Super Bowl. You need the cheap rookie contracts to off set the high priced veterans. You can't build a competent team through free agency alone.

If you don't believe in Bengals drafting, then the dream is dead regardless. So why does it matter?

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-17-2025, 03:15 PM)CJD Wrote: A team that can't draft will never compete for a Super Bowl. You need the cheap rookie contracts to off set the high priced veterans. You can't build a competent team through free agency alone.

If you don't believe in Bengals drafting, then the dream is dead regardless. So why does it matter?

Bingo.

Jessie Bates was our best player during the SB run. Logan Wilson could have easily been the MVP had they pulled that game out. Hubbard was nothing but clutch in the playoffs both years.

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 01:33 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think they won't go DT.

But, we need 1 Guard atleast and that's relying on Volson as the other Guard.

A starting DE.

A slot CB to replace Hilton and that's relying on Hill and CTB to start at CB without an upgrade.

A starting safety to replace Vonn Bell. And that's starting Stone.

Counting on the LB we signed from the Eagles to start.

And counting on Pratt to start and be productive. Pratt and Wilson both appeared to lose a step last year.

And counting on drafted guys like Murphy and Ossai to produce.

My goodness dude...

I agree on DT. They have the 2 youngsters, Hill and Slaton right now. So if they go DT in the draft, it's not going to be till later now. 

1 FA guard would be good on top of drafting one in the top 2 rounds this year. Kirkland and Ford are most likely the projected starters right now.

They have Ossai and Murphy at LDE. Trey should be here, barring some miraculous trade proposal that i don't see coming. Prob later round DE because safety and guard are more important now.

Slot CB will be Dax Hill. 

As i said, they should be looking at safety in rd 1, if not 2. Depends on which G and S are there. 

LB...they have Pratt, Wilson and the new guy. I don't know if that's much of a priority now, considering other positions of need. 

I can't really see how things are really dire right now with what is still out there and who is available in the draft + guys coming back from injury. 

[higgy100]

(03-17-2025, 12:17 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We also played really weak teams late in the year.

Murphy had 0 sacks. Correlating him playing to the defense being better doesn't pass the test.

Denver weak? Pittsburgh? It was the same Pittsburgh team that put 44 on them just a few weeks earlier. Look, it's the same D we saw either give up big yards, lots of points or couldn't get opponents off the field for the better part of 2 seasons and there were plenty of weak teams that did one of those three I described.

Bottom line is you play who you play and they got significantly better as they got younger the last handful of games.

[NotBigzo]

(03-17-2025, 02:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Geno was just an example of a HOF type player the Bengals have drafted. They drafted Jesse Bates and many other good defensive players
as well. To act like it is impossible for them to draft good players is just ignorant and shows you are pretty much dead, brain dead that is.

Who have they drafted recently that makes my take “brain dead”?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-17-2025, 03:52 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Who have they drafted recently that makes my take “brain dead”?

Jordan Battle looked pretty damn good his rookie season, then Lou benched him for Bell who sucked. CTB even looked good his rookie season
and DJ Turner started looking good late last season before he got injured. Bottom line we have new Defensive coaches and we don't know how 
much input Lou had in picking these players or how much he could or couldn't coach them up.

This new Defensive staff could very well hit on some picks if they have any say. It is pretty brain dead to remain a fan of a team if you have no 
faith in them in the future which is pretty much what you said.

[NotBigzo]

(03-17-2025, 04:33 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Jordan Battle looked pretty damn good his rookie season, then Lou benched him for Bell who sucked. CTB even looked good his rookie season
and DJ Turner started looking good late last season before he got injured. Bottom line we have new Defensive coaches and we don't know how 
much input Lou had in picking these players or how much he could or couldn't coach them up.

This new Defensive staff could very well hit on some picks if they have any say. It is pretty brain dead to remain a fan of a team if you have no 
faith in them in the future which is pretty much what you said.

Everyone you listed had flashes but looked like a brush of assberries last season.

And let’s not even get in Myles Murphy. That bum is a poor man’s Marcus Hunt at this point.

First and 2nd round drafts picks shouldn’t have this level of cope/hope at the end of their 2nd season.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-17-2025, 07:14 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Everyone you listed had flashes but looked like a brush of assberries last season.

And let’s not even get in Myles Murphy. That bum is a poor man’s Marcus Hunt at this point.

First and 2nd round drafts picks shouldn’t have this level of cope/hope at the end of their 2nd season.

DJ Turner didn't look bad last season, especially late before the injury, he was coming on. Dax Hill looked good last season too before injury
playing boundary Corner and I bet he fits in perfect at Slot Corner this year his natural position. Agree on Myles Murphy who had a very 
disappointing season after gaining too much muscle and slowing himself down in the process.

Doesn't mean we cannot hit on a early Draft pick, the Draft is a crapshoot. Sometimes it just doesn't work out or coaches cannot develop 
the players which I think is the main problem we have had around here.

[basballguy]

did the cap hits get posted to any thread? I thought i saw people saying the cap hits would change with new deals but sportrac says the cap hits are the franchise tag # and the 5th year # (for chase).

[Essex Johnson]

(03-17-2025, 01:25 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Cry babies that don't believe in coaching or a possible good draft. We drafted Geno Atkins, we can draft other studs with new Defensive coaches.

I think that is my argument to signing Tre and trade Tee, much easier to find a replacement WR than Dline

[Bengalbug]

(8 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: I think that is my argument to signing Tre and trade Tee, much easier to find a replacement WR than Dline

Except for the fact, not assumption, that WR has the lowest probability of panning out from the draft.

The Least Likely.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(8 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: I think that is my argument to signing Tre and trade Tee, much easier to find a replacement WR than Dline

I don't know, Tee is also way younger than Trey and this Draft is stacked with great pass rushers.

It is true that no rookie End is going to get 17+ sacks as a rookie, but we don't know if Trey will equal that again either.

I was for trading Tee, but in the end I am happy he is back for a while to hopefully prove he can stay healthy and he is just 
entering his prime. Not a lot of WR depth in this Draft either.

[bengalsboy]

(03-16-2025, 04:09 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: NFL contracts are out of hand. This shit is crazy.

They are indeed.Some DE from the Texans.Named Danielle Hunter.Just signed a  1 year contract for $35 million!

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(4 hours ago)bengalsboy Wrote: They are indeed.Some DE from the Texans.Named Danielle Hunter.Just signed a  1 year contract for $35 million!

If you don't know who Danielle Hunter is I don't know what to tell yah Bengalsboy...

That contract equates to 2 years 32 mil per year about what Trey deserves, but maybe a 3 year deal for Trey as he is a couple years younger.