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{The Ultimate Bengals Offseason Extravaganza Thread}
(03-19-2025, 10:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Actually it was because they were playing the likes of Cooper Rush, Mason Rudolph, and Dorian Thompson-Robinson, but go off.

The cowboys, with cooper rush, won the two games before and after playing the bengals. Two of those teams were Washington and Tampa.

The cowboys over that time scored 34, 27, 20, 30 and 26.

The cowboys, when the bengals played them, were a hot football team, with cooper rush as QB.

If the defense wasn’t playing better, how do you explain the 24 point swing between the two Steelers games?

The ravens put up 35 and 41, both early to mid season.
The browns put up 14 and then 6, from early season to end of season.
The Steelers went 44 and 17, mid season to end of season.

The difference between first and second games for browns and Steelers was around a 60% deduction in points allowed.
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(03-19-2025, 09:48 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Jessie Bates among others. 

I know people won't like that take, but I really think they didn't sign Bates because they knew they had to pay Tee...then they weren't going to sign Tee because they knew they had to pay Joe/Chase to ridiculously expensive contracts. 

I've been beating the Bates drum since I had to watch him ball out all season (NFC South viewing area). Ts, I just think that they undervalued him and though that they could easily replace him. Add in that he played his college ball at Wake and the move back to the SE was an easy one for him.

Tee's contract situation may have been in the back of some minds when Bates contract should have been in the front!

Rams D was supposed to suck after Donald retired; it didn't. They got better through the draft and are now set for another run.
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(03-19-2025, 11:42 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: The cowboys, with cooper rush, won the two games before and after playing the bengals. Two of those teams were Washington and Tampa.

The cowboys over that time scored 34, 27, 20, 30 and 26.

The cowboys, when the bengals played them, were a hot football team, with cooper rush as QB.

If the defense wasn’t playing better, how do you explain the 24 point swing between the two Steelers games?

The ravens put up 35 and 41, both early to mid season.
The browns put up 14 and then 6, from early season to end of season.
The Steelers went 44 and 17, mid season to end of season.

The difference between first and second games for browns and Steelers was around a 60% deduction in points allowed.

The only decent QB they faced during those last 5 games was a rookie Bo Nix. He threw 3 TD’s and had a 114.9 passer rating.

If you don’t think playing guys like Rudolph and DTR was a big part of why they looked so much better towards the end of the season idk what to tell you.
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We'll see how hot his seat looks in the new season of Quarterbacks this year.





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(03-18-2025, 07:32 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: People bitching and moaning about signing Tee unbelievable.  GM wannabes


It's the same reason some of us do mock drafts, FA targets, etc.

We think we have an idea of what players could be good to upgrade the team.

The worry is justified after seeing the defense that was fielded last year.

The defense was 25th in both yards and points allowed.
Offense was 6th in yards and points for.

The only actual outside addition to the defense so far has been Slaton, who has the following amount of pressures by year:
2024 (208 pass rush snaps) - 13
2023 (277 pass rush snaps) - 14
2022 (134 pass rush snaps) - 5
2021 (141 pass rush snaps) - 6

That's Kris Jenkins and McKinnley Jackson level:
Jenkins (260 pass rush snaps) - 11
Jackson (133 pass rush snaps) - 7

So Slaton does not improve the pass rush at all, just the run defense.
I'm sure that will help some, but I personally don't think that swings the defense to Top 15.

Bengals were tied for 24th in team sacks last year.

We have to hope Bengals add 1, if not 2, DL who can rush the passer. One of them needs to be a DT.

Some people are rightfully worried that, like last year, the Bengals could end up losing a handful of games despite scoring 30+ points in them because the defense is just that bad.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

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(03-19-2025, 11:55 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The only decent QB they faced during those last 5 games was a rookie Bo Nix. He threw 3 TD’s and had a 114.9 passer rating.

If you don’t think playing guys like Rudolph and DTR was a big part of why they looked so much better towards the end of the season idk what to tell you.

Can you explain the Steelers 24 point swing? You omitted that.
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well our OL is still pretty bad and burrow gets sacked alot maybe something in that department
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"Hot Seat" may have been a little click baitish, but no fan criticism if things go bad?
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(03-19-2025, 12:10 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: We'll see how hot his seat looks in the new season of Quarterbacks this year.

I missed this announcement if it was announced. 
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(03-18-2025, 10:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Even the “be patient” crowd has to admit this is pretty ugly outside of Vonn Bell. The chances of getting a decent contributor this late into FA are not great.


We have definitely gambled on the guard position...
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(03-19-2025, 12:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: "Hot Seat" may have been a little click baitish, but no fan criticism if things go bad?

So we have the highest paid QB (at time of signing), the highest paid non QB ever, and the highest paid WR2 in the league?  You'd better believe that there'll be criticism if they don't spring out of the gate, just blowing teams out of the water this year.  Mellow
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I have not heard one rumor about Brandon Scherff talking to the Bengals or any other team. I figured he would've been signed by now, what gives on him?
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(03-19-2025, 12:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: So we have the highest paid QB (at time of signing), the highest paid non QB ever, and the highest paid WR2 in the league?  You'd better believe that there'll be criticism if they don't spring out of the gate, just blowing teams out of the water this year.  Mellow

It depends. If the offense scores 35 points and we lose maybe not on JB and the offense. If OL gives JB no protection, again OL issue.

Any QB who has a bad defense is already under pressure to score a lot of points.
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Retirement maybe? The whole situation with the guard market is odd. The rest must have issues maybe outside of financial (injuries/retirement).
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(03-17-2025, 04:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yes, this has been a very pensive free agency season for the Bengals, especially with the WR extensions getting all the attention. I'd still like to see the team add a few pieces before depending on the draft as the only source of new talent. For example, there are a couple of inexpensive moves that they could make to improve the quality of the OL and the secondary in adding Brandon Scherff and Stephon Gilmore. I get that their both old, but they both also can still play a lot of snaps if needed to, along as offer some wisdom and guidance to younger players.

I wonder what Assante Samuel Jr will cost?
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huh... I think I just read a good point on here. If they paid Jessie Bates, Burrow probably wouldve never felt that the organization doesnt pay their guys. Which means he wouldnt have put pressure on the team to sign Higgins. Which means the team would be more balanced overall and have a batter defense




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(03-19-2025, 12:19 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Can you explain the Steelers 24 point swing?  You omitted that.

The Steelers had a really bad offense that typically put up lower points. The 44 was the anomaly.

17 was tied for the most points they scored over their last 7 games.

The Steelers last games they scored:
13
17
10
17
12
3
17

The Steelers lost every one of those games.
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(03-19-2025, 08:46 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: I’m expecting golden feels he can get more, maybe way more in some cases, out of the current defense.  It’s a 2 year plan.  Als job is to squeeze as much as he can this year.  Then we will know who does or doesn’t fit in his system and invest/restructure next year.

Sounds good to me, I just hope it doesn't take too long and our Defense doesn't cost us a shot at the Playoffs like last year.

(03-19-2025, 08:51 AM)jason Wrote: Gimme Jihaad Campbell...

I like him and Walker, both pass rushing LB's that can tackle and cover...
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(03-19-2025, 08:51 AM)jason Wrote: Gimme Jihaad Campbell...

His combine numbers, with a 9.95 RAS, were impressive.

I really like his film and the number of things he can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCaKuJQ2Bg
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(03-19-2025, 02:15 PM)Goalpost Wrote: His combine numbers, with a 9.95 RAS, were impressive.

I really like his film and the number of things he can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCaKuJQ2Bg

I want him on this team really bad. I'm just afraid they won't prioritize an LB at 17, or the first round in general.
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