06-03-2025, 08:16 AM
(06-02-2025, 05:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mike Reid is the best DT to ever wear stripes.
And the only one with Grammy Awards....
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The All Time Bengals Team - According to AI
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The All Time Bengals Team - According to AI
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 And the only one with Grammy Awards.... 
06-03-2025, 09:29 AM
Cool thread! I had to give creating a team a try using Chat GPT. --- EDIT: NO MUNOZ?! Fail.
My prompt Create an all-time Cincinnati Bengals team using the following framework: player strengths, player impact during the era they played, single season and career statistics, and how the player would fit on an all-time team. Chat GPT's response Creating an All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Team using your framework—player strengths, impact during era, single-season and career stats, and fit on an all-time roster—requires a balanced approach of honoring both legacy and on-field performance. Below is a full roster including starters and key backups/specialists in a modern base scheme: 11 personnel on offense (3 WRs), 4-3 defense. ? All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Team ? Criteria Breakdown: Player Strengths: Individual skills, physical traits, and intangibles. Impact During Era: Dominance relative to peers, Pro Bowl/All-Pro honors, and playoff success. Stats (Season & Career): Notable statistical achievements. All-Time Fit: How well they integrate into a modern all-time roster. ? OFFENSE (Base: 11 personnel) QB – Ken Anderson Era Impact: NFL MVP (1981), 4x Pro Bowler, led team to Super Bowl XVI. Strengths: Accuracy, anticipation, quick release. Stats: 32,838 yards, 197 TDs; led NFL in passer rating 4x. Fit: Smart, efficient leader of a balanced offense. Backup: Joe Burrow (elite peak, pending longevity) RB – Corey Dillon Era Impact: Played behind weak O-lines, still dominant. Strengths: Power, vision, underrated speed. Stats: 1,435 yards (Bengals single-season record in 2000); 8,061 total Bengals yards. Fit: Workhorse back who can carry the offense. Backup: James Brooks (dual-threat finesse back) WR1 – A.J. Green Era Impact: 7 straight 1,000-yard seasons; 7x Pro Bowler. Strengths: Route running, hands, body control. Stats: 9,430 yards, 65 TDs (most by Bengals WR). Fit: True X-receiver. WR2 – Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) Era Impact: 6x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro. Strengths: Elite route runner, elite footwork. Stats: Bengals leader in receptions and yards (751 / 10,783). Fit: Quick separator at Z. WR3 – Ja’Marr Chase Era Impact: Record-setting rookie year; elite in postseason. Strengths: YAC monster, vertical threat, alpha mentality. Stats: 1,455 yards (rookie record); still rising. Fit: Slot/utility weapon for chunk plays. TE – Bob Trumpy Era Impact: 4x Pro Bowler, AFL All-Star. Strengths: Deep threat at TE, blocker. Stats: 4,600+ yards in a run-heavy era. Fit: Seam-stretcher, versatile in 2-TE sets. Backup: Dan Ross (solid all-around) LT – Andrew Whitworth Era Impact: 4x Pro Bowler in Cincy; consistent elite play. Strengths: Pass pro, leadership, IQ. Fit: Franchise blindside protector. LG – Max Montoya Era Impact: 3x Pro Bowler with Bengals. Strengths: Power and mobility. Fit: Anchor in run game and screens. C – Rich Braham Era Impact: 13 years in Cincy, reliable leader. Strengths: Smart, tough, agile. Fit: Communication hub for offense. RG – Kevin Zeitler Era Impact: Rock-solid guard early in 2010s. Strengths: Pass pro technician, mauler in run game. Fit: Modern interior pass protector. RT – Willie Anderson Era Impact: 4x Pro Bowler, 3x All-Pro. Strengths: Dominant run blocker and pass protector. Fit: Perfect RT in any era. ?️ DEFENSE (Base: 4-3) DE – Carlos Dunlap Era Impact: Franchise sack leader for a time. Strengths: Length, motor, batted passes. Stats: 82.5 sacks (Bengals leader). Fit: Base DE with 3-down ability. DT – Geno Atkins Era Impact: 8x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro. Strengths: Explosiveness, leverage, hand use. Stats: 75.5 sacks (top 5 all-time DTs). Fit: 3-tech disruptor. DT – Tim Krumrie Era Impact: Heart of '88 Super Bowl D. Strengths: Toughness, motor, leadership. Stats: 1,000+ tackles (rare for DT). Fit: Nose/shade with relentless energy. DE – Coy Bacon Era Impact: 1976—21.5 sacks (unofficial). Strengths: Speed rush, bend. Fit: Situational edge killer. Alt: Trey Hendrickson (modern elite pass-rusher) LB – Reggie Williams Era Impact: 16 years, 62.5 sacks (LB). Strengths: Versatile, pass rush and coverage. Fit: 4-3 OLB or hybrid edge. LB – Takeo Spikes Era Impact: Pro Bowler (post-Cincy), fierce competitor. Strengths: Run fits, leadership, hits. Fit: Mike LB with sideline range. LB – Vontaze Burfict Era Impact: Polarizing but Pro Bowl-caliber play. Strengths: Instincts, violence, play recognition. Fit: SAM/strong LB in a downhill system. CB – Ken Riley Era Impact: 65 INTs (5th all-time), criminally underrated. Strengths: Ball skills, technique. Stats: 65 INTs, 18 seasons. Fit: CB1 on all-time team. CB – Lemar Parrish Era Impact: 6x Pro Bowler, 47 INTs. Strengths: Return ability, ball hawk. Fit: Athletic CB2, return ace. Slot CB – Mike Hilton Era Impact: Modern elite slot defender. Strengths: Blitzer, run fits, IQ. Fit: Nickel package specialist. FS – David Fulcher Era Impact: 3x Pro Bowler, All-Pro 1989. Strengths: Physical, coverage range, enforcer. Fit: Hybrid safety who can cover TE and hit. SS – Jessie Bates III Era Impact: Centerfielding stud (2018–22). Strengths: Range, instincts, ball skills. Fit: Free safety who allows disguises. Alt: Tommy Casanova (1970s All-Decade Team) ? SPECIAL TEAMS K – Jim Breech Franchise scoring leader, clutch leg. P – Kevin Huber Longest-tenured Bengal, precision punter. KR/PR – Adam “Pacman” Jones Elite return man and CB depth. ? COACHING STAFF Head Coach – Sam Wyche Most innovative Bengals coach; led team to Super Bowl XXIII. Notable: No-huddle offense pioneer. Coordinator Suggestions OC: Hue Jackson (most creative Bengals OC in recent history) DC: Dick LeBeau (invented zone blitz) 
06-03-2025, 10:26 AM
(06-02-2025, 06:08 PM)c766 Wrote: Let’s build the Ultimate All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Roster – offense, defense, and special teams. This team combines peak performance, impact, longevity, and raw Bengals lore. Get ready for orange-and-black greatness. (06-02-2025, 10:09 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is the best one so far. Yes, but c766 tweaked the output. I tried multiple different AI systems and none of them said Burrow is the Best Bengal QB of all time. I am not saying who the best Bengal QB is but Ken Anderson has a MVP on his resume. ![[Image: 4540978331_3e8fe35323.jpg]](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4540978331_3e8fe35323.jpg)
06-03-2025, 11:30 AM
(06-03-2025, 10:26 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Yes, but c766 tweaked the output. I tried multiple different AI systems and none of them said Burrow is the Best Bengal QB of all time. It depends on your definition of "greatest" and how you apply it. Is their career over, did they play the longest, did they have the best stats, who reached the highest peak, how many times did they reach that peak. Machines are fun to play with in this regard but you usually need a human brain to decipher all that. Even then it's still subjective. "Hope is not a strategy"
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
06-03-2025, 11:53 AM
(06-02-2025, 04:55 PM)c766 Wrote: QB - Burrow The obvious miss is Leon Hall over Parrish at CB. That is a joke. Parrish has to start. Bacon had 2 fantastic years here, and set the all time team record for sacks (22.5 IIRC) in the process. But Trey has to be the #1 DE. Dunlap, Bacon, or Eddie Edwards on the other side is fine. Reggie Williams was not a MLB at any point I can recall, but has to be on the team at ROLB. Pickings at LB are pretty thin. I got no problem with Burfict at MLB/OLB. The list of pro bowl Bengsl LBs is Burfict, Jim LeClair, and Bill Bergey, 1 selection apiece. All MLBs, but Burfict played outside some. I'd put LeClair in the middle, Williams & Burfict outside. Cassanova over Bates at FS. On specials, Breech over McPherson and Parrish over Pac-Man. Maybe McInally over Huber at P. On O. Trumpy over Holman at TE. I prefer Brooks to Dillon at RB. I'd cheat and put Whit at G, but Zeitler is fine. And Bob Johnson over Braham at C. And I'd still take Anderson over Burrow at this point, though not for much longer.
06-03-2025, 11:56 AM
06-03-2025, 11:57 AM
(06-03-2025, 10:26 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Yes, but c766 tweaked the output. I tried multiple different AI systems and none of them said Burrow is the Best Bengal QB of all time. No i did not, I copy and pasted the prompt and the results for you. I pay monthly for chat gpt and did it all from mobile- you should learn how this stuff works. You are a paranoid little guy
06-03-2025, 12:04 PM
(06-03-2025, 10:26 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Yes, but c766 tweaked the output. I tried multiple different AI systems and none of them said Burrow is the Best Bengal QB of all time. These AI results vary constantly...sorry to spoil your conspiracy
06-03-2025, 03:34 PM
(06-02-2025, 06:08 PM)c766 Wrote: Let’s build the Ultimate All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Roster – offense, defense, and special teams. This team combines peak performance, impact, longevity, and raw Bengals lore. Get ready for orange-and-black greatness. (06-03-2025, 11:57 AM)c766 Wrote: No i did not, I copy and pasted the prompt and the results for you. Silly rabbit  . I have MULTIPLE PAID AI accounts. I have been a heavy user of these services. Get your lazy arse and see my Thread in Klotsch, naw on second thought I don't think you have the ability. Let me direct you to my Thread ...https://thebengalsboard.com/thread-35276-post-1345080.html#pid1345080 Catch the date pal. I was using ChatGPT since November 2022, but I was amazed when ChatGPT Plus came out in November 2023, hence look at the date I published my thread silly rabbit. Now stop bothering me and GTFO!!!! I have some prompts to write.
06-03-2025, 03:53 PM
(06-03-2025, 03:34 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Silly rabbit Says the peon who does not know prompts give different results constantly. Especially over large data sets and multiple variables of subjective info, LOL Just admit you were wrong; I did not not manipulate anything besides your bird brain.
06-03-2025, 04:31 PM
(06-02-2025, 06:08 PM)c766 Wrote: Let’s build the Ultimate All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Roster – offense, defense, and special teams. This team combines peak performance, impact, longevity, and raw Bengals lore. Get ready for orange-and-black greatness. (06-03-2025, 03:53 PM)c766 Wrote: Says the peon who does not know prompts give different results constantly. Especially over large data sets and multiple variables of subjective info, LOL Clean your ears, sorry I mean your brain. I never said prompts did not give out different results. I said I used "multiple" AI systems and none of them gave me the results of Joe Burrow as the best Bengal QB of all time. For example type "Best Bengal QB of all time" on Google -- Gemini and see the results peon. " "on MSN --Copilot " "
06-03-2025, 05:00 PM
(06-03-2025, 04:31 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Clean your ears, sorry I mean your brain. I never said prompts did not give out different results. I said I used "multiple" AI systems and none of them gave me the results of Joe Burrow as the best Bengal QB of all time. I used one and it showed burrow. I did it again and it came back w burrow again. (Even posted the screen shot) Did a 3rd and it showed Ken Anderson. You are terrible at understanding this
06-03-2025, 05:46 PM
(06-02-2025, 06:08 PM)c766 Wrote: Meh, Let’s build the Ultimate All-Time Cincinnati Bengals Roster – offense, defense, and special teams. This team combines peak performance, impact, longevity, and raw Bengals lore. Get ready for orange-and-black greatness. (06-03-2025, 05:00 PM)c766 Wrote: I used one and it showed burrow. Meh, I am done with you. The other members can use Google or MSN if they don't have an AI program. ![[Image: man-why-you-lying.gif]](https://media1.tenor.com/m/iUDFnBJuEXMAAAAC/man-why-you-lying.gif)
06-03-2025, 05:49 PM
06-03-2025, 05:56 PM
(06-02-2025, 05:33 PM)c766 Wrote: GPT - Said to build the all time bengals offense, defense and ST. When I did it again, it gave Boomer as QB, and dropped the WR3. Not sure how that all works. (06-03-2025, 11:57 AM)c766 Wrote: No i did not, I copy and pasted the prompt and the results for you. You aren't sure how it works and you're telling someone else to learn how to use it? Seems to me you don't really know how to use it either. BTW, the 20/month license you pay for is nothing to brag about. edit: (06-03-2025, 03:53 PM)c766 Wrote: Says the peon who does not know prompts give different results constantly. Especially over large data sets and multiple variables of subjective info, LOL You aren't appearing as cool as you think you are tossing around insults around intelligence while admitting you have no idea how it works. Some self reflection might be in order for you....maybe even a time out from the internet. 
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06-03-2025, 06:20 PM
(06-03-2025, 05:56 PM)basballguy Wrote: You aren't sure how it works and you're telling someone else to learn how to use it? Yeah man, I have no clue why some prompts in a LLM produce x results at a moment in time, and the same prompts minutes later produce new data sets with slightly different results. Oh wait, yes I do. Because it is all subjective.
06-03-2025, 08:36 PM
He takes some hits for off field crap and a (relatively) short time here, but it's tough for me to think that anyone other than the Rattler was better than Adam Jones. He was an athletic freak, worked like a dog, and was a demanding leader on-field.
Reggie Nelson might have been better than Bates when he was at his peak. I give it to Bates for his playoff performances alone, but Reggie was outstanding all year long.
06-03-2025, 09:35 PM
(06-03-2025, 05:56 PM)basballguy Wrote: You aren't sure how it works and you're telling someone else to learn how to use it? Thanks baseballguy, I won't waste my time with that guy. He went from having multiple answers from a single prompt, something I never disagreed with, to I don't know how to prompt.  I have been prompting since ChatGPT was released to the public in November 22 and signed up for the premium version in Feb 23. Hence my Thread back in Feb 23 in Klotsch ... https://thebengalsboard.com/thread-35276-post-1345080.html#pid1345080 I went from Bard[now Gemini] when it first came out in Feb 23 as well. I have created hundreds if not thousands of prompts over the past two and a half years over different AI tools for work, knowledge, and pleasure. But seeing is believing so here was a legal prompt that I created back in Feb 2023 ... https://thebengalsboard.com/thread-35276-post-1346057.html#pid1346057 I wanted to share prompts with members when I created that Thread, but alas, I think because Klotsch is a dead forum, and people were not into ChatGPT at that time. I didn't get a following. Maybe if I revive that Thread, I will get members who can provide good prompts. 
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