Poll: Where They At?
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RANK OUR IOL (2025)
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So far, we’ve rated the following:

QB (2-3/ 59%)
EDGE (Tie 11-16 & 17-22/ 31%)
WR (1-2/ 77%)
SAF (25-32/87%)
RB (12-18/53%)
DT (20-25/50%)
OT (11-17/71%)
ILB(13-17/58%)

Time to go back to the 0 and rank our men in the middle. I’ll list each team’s 3 starters and first off the bench; for us, that’s Ted, Patrick, Dylan, and Volson. There’s a chance that this may change depending on what we do with Rivers, but it shouldn’t significantly affect the ranking.

ARZ: EVAN BROWN-HJATE FROHOLDT-ISIAH ADAMS-HAYDEN CONNER
ATL: MATTHEW BERGERON-RYAN NAUZIL-CHRIS LINDSTROM-ELIJAH WILKENSON
BAL: ANDREW VORHEES-TYLER LINDERBAUM-DANIEL FALELE-BEN CLEVELAND
BUF: DAVID EDWARDS-CONNOE MCGOVERN-OCYRUS TORRENCE-KENDRICK GREEN
CAR: DAMIEN LEWIS AUSTIN COLBERT-ROBERT HUNT-CADE MAYS
CHI: JOE THUNEY-DREW DAIMEN-JONAH JACKSON-RYAN BATES
CLV: JOE BOTONIO-ETHAN POCIC-WYATT TELLER-TEVIN JENKINS
DAL: TYLER SMITH COOPER BEEBE-TYLER BOOKER-ROBERT JONES
DEN: BEN POWERS-LUKE WATTENBERG-QUINN MIENERZ-ALEX FORSYTH
DET: CHRISTIAN MAHOGONEY-GRAHAM GLASSGOW-TATE RATLEDGE-NETAI MUTI
GBP: AARON BANKS-ELGTON JENKINS-SEAN RHYAN-JORDAN MORGAN
HOU: TYTUS HOWARD-JARED PATTERSON-JUICE SCRUGGS-LAKEN TOMLISON
IND:  QUINTON NELSON-TANNER BORTOLINI-MATT GONCLAVES-JOSH SILLS
JAX: EZRA CLEVELAND-ROBERT HAINSEY-PATRICK MEKARI-LUKE FORTNER
KCC: MIKE CALIENDO-CREED HUMPHRY-TREY SMITH-KINSLEY SUAMATU
LVR: DYLAN PARHAM-JACKSON POWERSJOHNSON-ALEX CAPPA-WILL PULLMAN
LAC: BRADLEY BOZEMAN-ZION JOHNSON-MEKHI BECTON-JAMAREE SALYER
LAR: STEVE AVILA-COLEMAN SHELTON-KEVIN DOTSON-BEAUX LIMMER
MIA: JAMES DANIELS-AARON BREWER-JONAH SAVAIINAEA-JACKSON CARMAN
MIN: DONOVAN JACKSON-RYAN KELLY-WILL FRIES-BLAKE BRANDEL
NEP: COLE STRANGE-GARRETT BRADBURY-MIKE ONWENU-LANDEN ROBINSON
NOS: TREVOR PENNING-ERIK MCCOY-CESAR RUIZ-DILLON RADIUZ
NYG: JON RUNYAN-JOHN MICHEALSMITZ-GREG VONROTEN-EVAN NEAL
NYJ- JOHN SIMPSON-JOE TIPPMANN-ALJEH VERATUCKER-JOSH MYERS
PHI:  LANDEN DICKERSIN-CAM JURGENS-TYLER STEEN-MYLERS PRYOR
PIT: ISSAC SEUMALO-ZACH FRASIER-MASON MCCORMICK-SPENCER ANDERSON
SFF: BEN BARTCH-JAKE BRENDEL-DOMINICK PUNI-MATT HENNESY
SEA: GREG ZABEL OLUWATIMI-CHRISTIAN HAYNES-ANTHONY BRADFORD
TBB: BEN BREDERSON-GRAHAM BARTON-CODY MAUCH-JAKE MAJORS
TEN: PETER SKORONSKI-LLOYD CUSHINBERRY-KEVIN ZEITLER-JACKSON SLATER
WAS: NICK ALLEGRETTI-TYLER BIADEZ-SAM COSMI-ANDREW WYLIE

AVAILABLE: BRANDON SCHREFF-SHAQ MASON-WILL HERNANDEZ-DAN FENEY
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This a Beverly Hills Poll?

And I picked 23-27, but I think they will end off the year higher than that :)
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Turrible
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In the year 92025 I predict we'll still have a bad IOL.
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The good news is that it's going to be very, very hard to be worse than last year.
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(06-04-2025, 12:34 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The good news is that it's going to be very, very hard to be worse than last year.

True. I like Dylan Fairchild for the future for sure but he will be a rookie. Patrick has trouble staying healthy as well so I went 23-27 but once 
Fairchild gets his feet wet and if Patrick can stay healthy we could be much better by midseason and better than last year where we were one
of if not THE worst IOL in the NFL.
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(06-04-2025, 02:12 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True. I like Dylan Fairchild for the future for sure but he will be a rookie. Patrick has trouble staying healthy as well so I went 23-27 but once 
Fairchild gets his feet wet and if Patrick can stay healthy we could be much better by midseason and better than last year where we were one
of if not THE worst IOL in the NFL.

I agree with you for the most part but I think we were 32 but I can't honestly slot green Fairchild and fringe level Patrick at 27 today. Even if we justify that our depth is sort of more proven than other teams (Volson, Ford, Lee) but can someone make a case for 5 teams worse that us?

Other teams have hope for their rookies, have guys getting healthy, trust their coaching staff, we aren't unique.  I'm doing my best to check my bias on this position group stopping us from a SB win, but I can't move from being bitter at the FO all the way to seeing what they never fixed as being the 27th best IOL in the league. 
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(06-04-2025, 03:25 PM)phil413 Wrote: I agree with you for the most part but I think we were 32 but I can't honestly slot green Fairchild and fringe level Patrick at 27 today. Even if we justify that our depth is sort of more proven than other teams (Volson, Ford, Lee) but can someone make a case for 5 teams worse that us?

Other teams have hope for their rookies, have guys getting healthy, trust their coaching staff, we aren't unique.  I'm doing my best to check my bias on this position group stopping us from a SB win, but I can't move from being bitter at the FO all the way to seeing what they never fixed as being the 27th best IOL in the league. 

I think Ted makes us better than around 5 teams, he is solid and should be much better with better Guard play around him. Patrick's PFF 
grades were way higher in both pass and run blocking for the Saints than Cappa and Volson. The question is can Patrick stay healthy. I guess
I just really like the Fairchild and even Rivers picks. I think Fairchild will definitely be better than what we saw from Volson last season.

I think we are upgraded, the question is how much?
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I've heard of maybe 12 guys on that list... Still fairly certain we're worse than most of em.
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#10
It's kinda hard to rank right now. Depending on camp battles we could be starting Fairchild and Rivers or any number of other combinations. I suspect it will start rougher then settle down as they get used to playing together.
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I think in 2024 we were dead last in the interior. Only Karras was respectable albeit not great. I think we will have some early struggles, but by end of the yeaar be closer to 20 than 30.

I rated 23 to 27 overall, but like I said closer to 20 by second half of the yeat and possibly as high as 16.

I think or young guards will surprise us in 2025 and one will start and have better numbers than a vet we paid a lot of money to in 2024 Cappas. My other surprise is Volson will get coached up and improve his numbers by 12 to 15 points againts the pass making him average, but a lot better than poor.
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We don't know who either of our guards will be. It will either be rookies or players we know are bottom tier guards in the league. Can't go anything less than bottom 5 at this point.
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(06-04-2025, 09:40 PM)TheFan Wrote: We don't know who either of our guards will be. It will either be rookies or players we know are bottom tier guards in the league. Can't go anything less than bottom 5 at this point.

When would you be comfortable going less than the bottom 5? 
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Didnt we have the 6th best offense in the league..line must have been doing enough right
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I'm going 22-16. I know. it's that time of year.

But I think the addition of Scott Peters upgrading our current linemen - including Ford and Volson - combined with the upside of Fairchild, Patrick and Rivers is going to surprise people. We will start off slow, but end up in the 22-16 range.
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I'm going 23-27 because Ted Karras is a solid starting Center... other than that it's a massive question mark with 2 new starters at Guard. Although the penciled starters being a career back-up and a 3rd round rookie doesn't inspire alot confidence.

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