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(Yesterday, 11:38 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Rodgers will be getting the ball out in 1.3 seconds like Ben was his last year to protect him from getting pounded. The result is going to be predictably mediocre.
Rogers MO is to hold the ball and make plays with his feet.....which he can't do any more. You believe the OC can get him to break 20 years of habits?
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(06-05-2025, 07:47 PM)Stewy Wrote: Awesome. Tomlinson can finally have that losing season. Rogers will get blasted in the AFCN.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
Rogers might get murdered, especially in the cold, and it looks like his last 8 games will be in the cold. I realize that Green Bay and New York were cold, but Rogers is also a year older playing behind a bad line.
(06-05-2025, 08:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Steelers with Aaron Rodgers at QB? Please re-sign Trey Hendrickson, please re-sign Trey Hendrickson...
The idea is tasty, but players falling off after thirty still worries me in paying him so much.
(06-05-2025, 09:02 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Over the moon.
But not for the reason you might think.
Because they want an early pick, but I don't think they'll be bad enough to pick high enough to get the franchise quarterback they want, especially with so many other teams needing one.
(06-05-2025, 09:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Oh, I've spoken with a few of my lifelong friends who are Steeler fans. They think that this will finally be the move that get's Tomlin down the road.
I hope not because I'm fine with him coaching them to mediocre seasons!
(06-05-2025, 11:02 PM)Stewy Wrote: I think the Steelers want a shot at one of the QBs coming out next year. For that they need to tank, and for that they need a QB that has nothing left in theirs. We'll see how the season progresses, but if the Steelers start putting their stars on IR for likely turf toe and weak sprains, then the Steeler fans can cheer for losses to finally get a decent QB.....but I'm not sure it would cost Tomlin his job.
Love the play on words!
Like I said above, I think (hope) that they'll do just well enough to miss out on the playoffs and miss drafting one of the top guys.
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(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I hope not because I'm fine with him coaching them to mediocre seasons!
Same here. The thing is that everyone except the Steeler fans seems to love Tomlin in his role. Any time that I listed to interview with players who have played for Tomin or even people from the coaching circles speak of Tomlin, it's always in glowing terms. However when a fan calls in, it's all doom and gloom. People probably said the same thing about Bengals fans when we would complain about Marvin Lewis.
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(06-05-2025, 09:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Oh, I've spoken with a few of my lifelong friends who are Steeler fans. They think that this will finally be the move that get's Tomlin down the road.
Hmm, I think if things go sour this year they'll blame Rodgers and Teflon Tomlin will be kept around to build around the new guy they can finally draft with their top 10 pick. I would be wary about hoping the Steelers are a disaster, because being the worst team in the NFL at the right time saved our entire franchise.
Still, until I see otherwise, the Steelers are going to go 9-8 and lose in the first round on the playoffs on the road as the #6 or #7 seed. I don't care if they start Rudolp, Rodgers, or a 51 year old Danny Wuerffel...they're going to go 9-8 and lose in the first round. They're the Dalton/Marvin era Bengals right now...don't root for them to suck their way into a Joe Burrow.
(Yesterday, 03:24 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Same here. The thing is that everyone except the Steeler fans seems to love Tomlin in his role. Any time that I listed to interview with players who have played for Tomin or even people from the coaching circles speak of Tomlin, it's always in glowing terms. However when a fan calls in, it's all doom and gloom. People probably said the same thing about Bengals fans when we would complain about Marvin Lewis.
Players and fans want different things. I think a lot of players realize that winning a SB is icing on the cake of their career. A lot of things have to go right, and you can go to a franchise with a coach who is a ballbustser who makes you miserable but get results and then your QB tears one tiny ligament and your SB window shuts and you are miserable and have no ring to show for it. Brady and Bellichick are ultra successful and won 6 rings over the span of 21 years...even that means that a bunch of players had to deal with those two giant d-bags with no ring to show for 15 of those years. Ugh, can you imagine spending a year with Bill Bellichick and not getting a ring for it? Damn.
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(06-05-2025, 11:02 PM)Stewy Wrote: I think the Steelers want a shot at one of the QBs coming out next year. For that they need to tank, and for that they need a QB that has nothing left in theirs. We'll see how the season progresses, but if the Steelers start putting their stars on IR for likely turf toe and weak sprains, then the Steeler fans can cheer for losses to finally get a decent QB.....but I'm not sure it would cost Tomlin his job.
It would not surprise me to see Will Howard starting later in the season
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(Yesterday, 12:50 PM)Stewy Wrote: Rogers MO is to hold the ball and make plays with his feet.....which he can't do any more. You believe the OC can get him to break 20 years of habits?
They did it with Ben. I think the first time Rodgers gets destroyed by the guy his LT failed to block will make for a compelling argument.
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It's next season and I'm hopeful
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(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Because they want an early pick, but I don't think they'll be bad enough to pick high enough to get the franchise quarterback they want, especially with so many other teams needing one.
No, because we've wanted Tomlin fired FOR YEARS. He's arguably not a better coach than Marvin Lewis.
Ironically, Tomlin is closing in on Lewis' record of playoff futility with 6 straight losses (Lewis had 8). More ironically, the record would already be Tomlin's alone (10!!!!!) if not for CIN having a historic meltdown to give the game away. Even more mindblowing is how incredibly smacked they got in those last 6 - 66-0 after the first quarter, and trailing an average of like 17 before scoring their first point.
The only reason Tomlin is still coaching this team - or the main reason and why the press loves him - is because he inherited a LOADED roster and coaching staff from Cowher and got carried to a SB despite his efforts to turtle away a win. But then he got his wish a few years later when he took the more experienced, healthier and talented team to the SB and made the bizarre decision to "ease into the game" and, in what has become a trend, got boat raced.
Mike McCarthy has nearly an identical resume. Nobody talks about how great he is, much less going into the HOF. He's been fired twice. Why do you suppose Tomlin hasn't been fired even once?
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(Yesterday, 12:49 PM)Stewy Wrote: Wow ok. So they're delusional.
Who do you think is the most out of touch? GM? Rooneys? Tomlin?
Tomlin is a fraud, number one. The next time he out-coaches someone will be the first.
But obviously the buck has to stop with Rooney. He loves the "3 coaches in 50+ years". He loves the string of non-losing seasons. No joke, Tomlin, the prior GM and Rooney have ALL said the playoffs are a lottery and what matters is just getting there. Complete pass for Tomlin routinely having his teams unprepared and incapable of competing in the playoffs.
Also, at this point, probably doesn't want to deal with the politics of it all. The national media is over-the-top with unearned praise for Tomlin. He almost always gets a pass (except from, ironically, former players and some Steeler legends). The Rooney rule is named after his father. Of course, none of that prevents him from simply not renewing Tomlin's contract.
Same Rooney that told Cowher - after 13 years - it was "time to win a SB". It's been 17 years since Tomlin won a SB. And 3 wins in the last 15 years in the playoffs, with one of those gifted by the inept Marvin Lewis and CIN Bengals.
Absolutely no way any other NFL team wouldn't have fired Tomlin for what he's put on tape the last decade and a half.
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(2 hours ago)JustWinBaby Wrote: Tomlin is a fraud, number one. The next time he out-coaches someone will be the first.
But obviously the buck has to stop with Rooney. He loves the "3 coaches in 50+ years". He loves the string of non-losing seasons. No joke, Tomlin, the prior GM and Rooney have ALL said the playoffs are a lottery and what matters is just getting there. Complete pass for Tomlin routinely having his teams unprepared and incapable of competing in the playoffs.
Also, at this point, probably doesn't want to deal with the politics of it all. The national media is over-the-top with unearned praise for Tomlin. He almost always gets a pass (except from, ironically, former players and some Steeler legends). The Rooney rule is named after his father. Of course, none of that prevents him from simply not renewing Tomlin's contract.
Same Rooney that told Cowher - after 13 years - it was "time to win a SB". It's been 17 years since Tomlin won a SB. And 3 wins in the last 15 years in the playoffs, with one of those gifted by the inept Marvin Lewis and CIN Bengals.
Absolutely no way any other NFL team wouldn't have fired Tomlin for what he's put on tape the last decade and a half.
sooner or later 36 year old Cam Heywood and TJ Watt will retire or fall off the cliff performance-wise and Tomlin will be truly exposed. Those 2 on defense have covered up a multitude of sins including internal disfunction
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We all knew this was coming. I don't expect Rodgers to last the season honestly. I think he might be better than Russ was for them last
year in that checkdown Offense. At least for a time until he gets smoked. Aaron will be getting the ball out quickly trying to prevent from
being injured, not going to be a real exciting offense to watch same as last year. But if Aaron has time he can still beat you deep with that
arm so I think it is an upgrade for the stealers.
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