5 Predictions That Will Come True Before Season

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-07-2025, 12:12 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's hard to be excited for the player and person right now that is Shemar Stewart.
From everything we've heard thus far on the contract situation, his side is arguing he shouldn't have that clause because previous Bengals 1st rounders haven't had it.
But this year, supposedly the pick immediately prior and after both have that clause, and it sounds like it's becoming/wanting to become more common for teams across the league.
Stewart might have to accept that this is the "new normal" and deal with it.
Right now, it feels like he's willing to delay his own development and potentially impact the production of the team by refusing to play due this contract clause.

If/when this gets settled, will we finally see Stewart just put his head down, focus on football, and really develop into the monster he has the potential to become, or is this just the first hurdle in distraction after distraction after distraction for this dude?

Nice post. Those are the questions. Regardless this hasn't been a good look for him especially and will no doubt affect his play on the field.

[ERIC1]

(07-07-2025, 01:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nice post. Those are the questions. Regardless this hasn't been a good look for him especially and will no doubt affect his play on the field.

1) when the season starts and he is in uniform playing..absolutely nobody will give a darn about this

2) minicamps are like tag football and non participation will not affect his play one way or another..As far as the intangibles..the play book, scheme..etc..Stewart was there the majority of the time taking it all in.

[BFritz21]

(07-07-2025, 04:13 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: 1) when the season starts and he is in uniform playing..absolutely nobody will give a darn about this

2) minicamps are like tag football and non participation will not affect his play one way or another..As far as the intangibles..the play book, scheme..etc..Stewart was there the majority of the time taking it all in.

1) I agree as long as he sees the field and produces. If he plays bad, people will point to this, even though it won't have mattered.

2) I agree and corner isn't like quarterbacks and receivers or defensive/offensive linemen because you don't really need to work with your teammates to be able to produce. Corners are pretty much on an island and there's not much practice needed as long as he knows schemes and coverages.

[*KillerGoose*]

(07-07-2025, 07:57 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: 1) I agree as long as he sees the field and produces. If he plays bad, people will point to this, even though it won't have mattered.

2) I agree and corner isn't like quarterbacks and receivers or defensive/offensive linemen because you don't really need to work with your teammates to be able to produce. Corners are pretty much on an island and there's not much practice needed as long as he knows schemes and coverages.

Corners aren't on an island as much as you think. Zone coverage is the primary coverage of every team in the league. They have to coordinate with the linebackers and other DBs to make sure they have the correct check and they have to understand when/where to pass receivers off. There's a lot of little stuff that goes in to that. Leverage, jam techniques, depth etc.

They need a lot of practice. Defensive coverages are fascinating and can become quite complex, especially for things like pattern matching. 

[BFritz21]

(07-07-2025, 08:05 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Corners aren't on an island as much as you think. Zone coverage is the primary coverage of every team in the league. They have to coordinate with the linebackers and other DBs to make sure they have the correct check and they have to understand when/where to pass receivers off. There's a lot of little stuff that goes in to that. Leverage, jam techniques, depth etc.

They need a lot of practice. Defensive coverages are fascinating and can become quite complex, especially for things like pattern matching. 

Golden runs zone and man but has a preference for man coverage.

Cornerback is the most isolated position on the field and a lot of it relies on instincts.

I agree that it would be better if he were here, but it shouldn't really impact his play.

[SunsetBengal]

(07-07-2025, 08:40 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Golden runs zone and man but has a preference for man coverage.

Cornerback is the most isolated position on the field and a lot of it relies on instincts.

I agree that it would be better if he were here, but it shouldn't really impact his play.

Sure, he may have preferred to run his CBs in man at the college level, where he had a stacked roster at all 3 levels of the defense. I have a feeing that zone is still going to be the mainstay. Why else would he be having all of the DBs, regardless of "true position" practicing all of the roles in his secondary? 

[ERIC1]

(07-03-2025, 08:30 AM)jj22 Wrote: I'm surprised more aren't concerned with the Shemar not signing until right before the season. His rookie season is already teetering on a wash. This would all but end any hope of him contributing.

Already a boom or bust prospect with the need to develop. He's behind the ball and would only be further behind if this goes deeper into training camp.

1) his rookie season is not teetering
2) he is not a boom or bust prospect and missing a week of tag football has absolutely no impact

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-07-2025, 04:13 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: 1) when the season starts and he is in uniform playing..absolutely nobody will give a darn about this

2) minicamps are like tag football and non participation will not affect his play one way or another..As far as the intangibles..the play book, scheme..etc..Stewart was there the majority of the time taking it all in.

Maybe, depends on how Shemar plays. If he is effective, yeah, nobody will give a damn.

There is a lot more to practice than you are making out.